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In a previous question on MOprevious question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

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In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on metathe advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

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In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

In a previous question on MO I mentioned that I had convinced myself of the following:

When $f_p(z) = z - p(z)/p'(z)$ and $p$ is a complex polynomial, the Julia set, $J(f_p)$ is not continuously determined (in the sense of the Hausdorff metric) by the roots of $p$ if any of those roots is not simple.

I can think of a few different ways for a proof to go, but the main idea is the same in each one: A multiple root can be "separated" by an arbitrarily small perturbation to form a set of simple roots, and that causes a change in the dynamics.

I have worked out the details (I think) for one proof along those lines, but per the advice I received on meta I will not ask for anyone to read my work in order to answer my question. My question is:

Does this result appear in the literature (or is it a trivial application of something that appears in the literature)?

Alternatively, if the result is actually wrong then I would of course accept that as an answer.

Edit: I feel like the result should be in Paul Blanchard's The Dynamics of Newton's Method. Maybe for experts it is there and I'm just not knowledgeable enough to connect the dots. For example, Blanchard notes that the simple roots of the polynomial are superattracting fixed points while the multiple roots are merely attracting fixed points. He notes that the critical points are the simple roots and inflection points of the polynomial, and that the degree of the map $z\to z-p(z)/p'(z)$ is equal to the degree of $p$ only when the roots of $p$ are all simple.

The nature of fixed points changing, the set of critical points changing, and the degree of the map itself changing all hint that "something drastic" will happen to the global dynamics of the map when a multiple root is separated (or alternatively, when a set of simple roots collide to form a multiple root), but is it obvious that the Julia set could never remain stable in this case?

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