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$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent over ZFC:

  1. YourZFC plus your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. ZFC plus the axiom scheme Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme assertingasserts that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. ZFC plus the assertion scheme that $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since also $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$ of all ordinals. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$$\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

In particular, the axiom is stronger than just an inaccessible cardinal. For example, you could have also continued your observation about inaccessibility to reals to notice that $\omega_1$ must be a limit of inaccessible cardinals in $L$, since there can be no bound below $\omega_1$, as that bound would not work in $L^{V[G]}$. Similarly, it must be $\alpha$-inaccessible for every countable $\alpha$, and $\alpha$-hyperinaccessible and so on. Ultimately, of course, you get that $\kappa$ is an inaccessible fully reflecting cardinal in $L$, as I argued.

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent over ZFC:

  1. Your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme asserting that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since also $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$ of all ordinals. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

In particular, the axiom is stronger than just an inaccessible cardinal. For example, you could have also continued your observation about inaccessibility to reals to notice that $\omega_1$ must be a limit of inaccessible cardinals in $L$, since there can be no bound below $\omega_1$, as that bound would not work in $L^{V[G]}$. Similarly, it must be $\alpha$-inaccessible for every countable $\alpha$, and $\alpha$-hyperinaccessible and so on. Ultimately, of course, you get that $\kappa$ is an inaccessible fully reflecting cardinal in $L$, as I argued.

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent:

  1. ZFC plus your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. ZFC plus the axiom scheme Ord is Mahlo, which asserts that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. ZFC plus the assertion scheme that $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since also $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$ of all ordinals. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

In particular, the axiom is stronger than just an inaccessible cardinal. For example, you could have also continued your observation about inaccessibility to reals to notice that $\omega_1$ must be a limit of inaccessible cardinals in $L$, since there can be no bound below $\omega_1$, as that bound would not work in $L^{V[G]}$. Similarly, it must be $\alpha$-inaccessible for every countable $\alpha$, and $\alpha$-hyperinaccessible and so on. Ultimately, of course, you get that $\kappa$ is an inaccessible fully reflecting cardinal in $L$, as I argued.

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

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$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent over ZFC:

  1. Your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme asserting that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since also $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$ of all ordinals. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

In particular, the axiom is stronger than just an inaccessible cardinal. For example, you could have also continued your observation about inaccessibility to reals to notice that $\omega_1$ must be a limit of inaccessible cardinals in $L$, since there can be no bound below $\omega_1$, as that bound would not work in $L^{V[G]}$. Similarly, it must be $\alpha$-inaccessible for every countable $\alpha$, and $\alpha$-hyperinaccessible and so on. Ultimately, of course, you get that $\kappa$ is an inaccessible fully reflecting cardinal in $L$, as I argued.

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent over ZFC:

  1. Your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme asserting that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent over ZFC:

  1. Your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme asserting that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since also $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$ of all ordinals. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

In particular, the axiom is stronger than just an inaccessible cardinal. For example, you could have also continued your observation about inaccessibility to reals to notice that $\omega_1$ must be a limit of inaccessible cardinals in $L$, since there can be no bound below $\omega_1$, as that bound would not work in $L^{V[G]}$. Similarly, it must be $\alpha$-inaccessible for every countable $\alpha$, and $\alpha$-hyperinaccessible and so on. Ultimately, of course, you get that $\kappa$ is an inaccessible fully reflecting cardinal in $L$, as I argued.

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

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$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

With this understanding, we can settle the strength of your theory.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent over ZFC:

  1. Your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme asserting that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

With this understanding, we can settle the strength of your theory.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent:

  1. Your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme asserting that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

$\newcommand\HC{\text{HC}}$Allow me to denote your theory $\Phi$ by "$\HC\prec V[G]$". As you mention, this is not a single statement, since we have no truth predicate able to express truth in the extension $V[G]$, but rather it is expressed as a scheme, asserting of each formula $\varphi$ with parameters $z\in\HC$ that $\HC\models\varphi[z]$ if and only if $\Vdash\varphi(\check z)$, where the forcing relation is over the Levy collapse of all ordinals.

Theorem. The following theories are equiconsistent over ZFC:

  1. Your theory, $\HC\prec V[G]$, expressed as a scheme.

  2. Ord is Mahlo, which is the scheme asserting that every definable (from parameters) closed unbounded class $C$ of ordinals contains a regular cardinal.

  3. $\kappa$ is an inaccessible reflecting cardinal. That is, $V_\kappa\prec V+\kappa$ is inaccessible, expressed as a scheme.

Proof. The equiconsistent of 2 and 3 is explained on the Cantor's attic page for Ord is Mahlo, to which I linked.

If your axiom holds, then we have $\HC\prec V[G]$. If $\kappa=\omega_1^V$, it follows easily that $L_\kappa\prec L$, since $L_\kappa=L^{\HC}$ and $L=L^{V[G]}$. And since $\kappa$ is inaccessible in $L$ as you observed, this gives us a model of statement 3.

Conversely, if statement $3$ holds, then consider the Levy collapse $V[G]$. Let $g=G\upharpoonright\kappa$, so that $V[g]$ is the usual Levy collapse of $\kappa$, and $\HC^{V[g]}=V_\kappa[g]$. Since $V_\kappa\prec V$, it is not difficult to see that $V_\kappa[g]\prec V[G]$, as follows. If $V_\kappa[g]\models\varphi[x]$, then by taking names, we get that some $p\in g$ forces $\varphi(\dot x)$ in $V_\kappa$, and so $p$ forces $\varphi(dot x)$ in $V$, and so $V[G]\models\varphi[x]$. So $\HC^{V[g]}\prec V[G]$ holds, verifying your theory in $V[g]$. QED

The axiom Ord is Mahlo is stronger than inaccessible and $\alpha$-inaccessible and hyperinaccessible and various strong hyper-degrees of inaccessibility, but strictly weaker than the existence of a Mahlo cardinal.

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