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Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness" with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question herehere, but got no comments thus far.

EDIT: I work with the definition of separability of this book, and with the definition of smoothness of this paper.

Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness" with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

EDIT: I work with the definition of separability of this book, and with the definition of smoothness of this paper.

Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness" with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

EDIT: I work with the definition of separability of this book, and with the definition of smoothness of this paper.

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Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness" with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

EDIT: I work with the definition of separability of this book, and with the definition of smoothness of this paper.

Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness" with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness" with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

EDIT: I work with the definition of separability of this book, and with the definition of smoothness of this paper.

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Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness". with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me that, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness".

However, it seems to me that, at least with my definitions, this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

Let $A \subseteq B$ be commutative noetherian rings. I have found the following claim: "Separability implies smoothness" with the following explanation: "The natural thing is to prove that a separable algebra is a regular homomorphism (and so smooth if it is of finite type). In general ...".

Remark: I am only interested in finitely generated algebras, so did not quote the rest of the explanation.

However, it seems to me, at least with my definitions, that this claim is false: If $A \subseteq B$ is separable, then (assuming the claim is true) $A \subseteq B$ is smooth, then by a result of Grothendieck, $A \subseteq B$ is flat, but this seems too much (especially in view of Examples on pages 95-97 and Corollary 9; I do not see why separability should imply flatness of $B$ over $A$. Notice that actually, this is what the explanation suggests: it says that separability implies $A \to B$ is a regular homomorphism, and by definition, a regular homomorphism is flat).

I will really appreciate if one can either post a sketch of proof/tell me where I can find a proof, or a counterexample.

Actually, I have already posted this question here, but got no comments thus far.

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