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Jan 28, 2015 at 15:56 comment added Yair Hayut @MonroeEskew: Maybe the paper of Gitik "Changing cofinalities and the non-stationary ideal" will be useful for this question. Theorem II in this paper states that it's consistent relative to supercompact that for some inaccessible $\kappa$ there is stationary $S\subseteq S^\kappa_\omega$ such that $NS_\kappa \restriction S$ is saturated, so forcing a generic ultrafilter will force $\text{cf }\kappa = \omega$, won't add bounded subsets and will be $\kappa$-c.c. I think that it's possible to arrange that $\kappa$ is the first inaccessible in this model.
Jan 28, 2015 at 15:16 comment added Asaf Karagila Yair, what about homogeneous forcing? :-)
Jan 28, 2015 at 15:15 comment added Yair Hayut Yes, you're right. Since $\mathbb{P}\ast \tilde{Col}$ is not $\kappa^+$-c.c., while $\mathbb{NM}\ast Col$ is $\kappa^+$-c.c. (even of size $\kappa$), the quotient forcing $\mathbb{R}$ is not $\kappa^+$-c.c. I don't know if it is possible to singularize the first inaccessible using a $\kappa^+$-c.c. forcing.
Jan 28, 2015 at 15:01 comment added Monroe Eskew Very interesting. So if I understand the definitions correctly it looks like $\mathbb P * \tilde{Col}$ is not $\kappa^+$-c.c. (because of $\tilde{Col}$). I wonder if we can singularize the least inaccessible $\kappa$ with a $\kappa^+$-c.c. forcing as in the ordinary Prikry forcing.
Jan 28, 2015 at 14:57 vote accept Monroe Eskew
Jan 28, 2015 at 14:20 history answered Yair Hayut CC BY-SA 3.0