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Oct 14, 2014 at 22:31 vote accept user40921
Oct 14, 2014 at 22:13 comment added user40921 Very interesting, thank you! It seems the second part of Joel's answer solves the problem, although one would expect a much simpler explanation (and indeed there is, somehow evading my notice until now). by the way, I didn't quite understand (in the first part of Joel's answer) if (and how) the new predicate $\check{M}$ can be used to define M in M[G] (and not just refer to M in the forcing language)
Oct 14, 2014 at 22:13 answer added Joel David Hamkins timeline score: 3
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Oct 14, 2014 at 22:17
Oct 14, 2014 at 21:50 answer added user40921 timeline score: 3
Oct 14, 2014 at 20:59 comment added Yair Hayut see mathoverflow.net/questions/78751/name-for-the-ground-model
Oct 14, 2014 at 20:54 comment added user40921 (it is, if e.g. M satisfies V=L, but I don't think it's generally true)
Oct 14, 2014 at 20:48 comment added user40921 and why is M definable in M[G]?
Oct 14, 2014 at 20:42 comment added Yair Hayut Since $M$ is definable in $M[G]$, everything that is definable in $M$ will be also definable in $M[G]$.
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