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Apr 13, 2017 at 12:57 history edited CommunityBot
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Jul 14, 2014 at 0:51 comment added Joel David Hamkins I would go along with that.
Jul 14, 2014 at 0:41 comment added Ioachim Drugus Thus, an ordered pair can be defined in such a manner that it encrypts not only order but also some additional information. This is very interesting because (1) this justifies using pairing algebras in encoding formulas as sets as I described their intended use in my question (2) Some properties of sets can be expressed in the language of pairing algebra and equality, which is useful for an algebraic set theory.
Jul 13, 2014 at 23:56 comment added Ioachim Drugus From your answer, it sound correct to name the algebras which I described, "pairing algebras".
Jul 13, 2014 at 1:56 comment added Joel David Hamkins Yes, that is precisely what "flat" means for the flat pairing functions. They don't raise ranks on any infinite set. Another way to say this is that every $V_\theta$ for infinite $\theta$ is closed under pairs. (It is impossible to never increase rank, since the finite ranks $V_k$ cannot be closed under pairing (for $k>1$) on finite cardinality grounds, since $n^2$ is larger than $n$ for $n>1$.
Jul 13, 2014 at 1:50 comment added Mariano Suárez-Álvarez Out of curiosity: is there an ordered-pair definition which does not raise the rank?
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Jul 13, 2014 at 1:41 history edited Joel David Hamkins CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jul 13, 2014 at 1:26 history answered Joel David Hamkins CC BY-SA 3.0