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May 9, 2014 at 8:15 vote accept user38200
May 8, 2014 at 18:56 history edited Emil Jeřábek CC BY-SA 3.0
update notation to match the question
May 8, 2014 at 18:11 comment added Emil Jeřábek In case it’s relevant, the argument does not need full choice: everything works fine if $V$ and $\mathfrak M$ satisfy just ZF + DC.
May 8, 2014 at 17:35 history edited Emil Jeřábek CC BY-SA 3.0
correction
May 8, 2014 at 17:13 comment added Emil Jeřábek You are right, I’ll fix it.
May 8, 2014 at 16:45 comment added Trevor Wilson Shoenfield absoluteness doesn't apply, because $\omega_1 \not\subset \mathfrak{M}$.
May 8, 2014 at 16:42 history answered Emil Jeřábek CC BY-SA 3.0