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I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we have that any $f\in T$ (i) vanishes on any accumulation point $x$ of $X$ (because if $f(x)\neq 0$ then $f$ would be non-zero in a closed nbd ox $x$, an infinite set). Moerover (ii) on any closed discrete subset $C$ of $X$, $f$ is different from zero only on finitely many points (because any subset of $C$, in particular $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is closed in $C$ and also in $X$). Conversely, any $f$ in $C(X)$ verifying (i) and (ii) necessarily has a zero in any infinite closed set (indeed, any infinite closed set of $X$ either possesses an accumulation point, thus a zero of $f$ by (i), or is discrete, and has a zero by (ii)).

In conclusion, $f\in T$ if and only if $D(X)\subset\{f=0\}$ and for any discrete closed set $C$ the set $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is finite; from this characterization it follows plainly that $T$ is an ideal of $C(X)$.

I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we have that any $f\in T$ (i) vanishes on any accumulation point $x$ of $X$ (because if $f(x)\neq 0$ then $f$ would be non-zero in a closed nbd ox $x$, an infinite set). Moerover (ii) on any closed discrete subset $C$ of $X$, $f$ is different from zero only on finitely many points (because any subset of $C$, in particular $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is closed in $C$ and also in $X$). Conversely, any $f$ in $C(X)$ verifying (i) and (ii) necessarily has a zero in any infinite closed set (indeed, any infinite closed set of $X$ either possesses an accumulation point, thus a zero of $f$ by (i), or is discrete, and has a zero by (ii)).

In conclusion, $f\in T$ if and only if $D(X)\subset\{f=0\}$ and for any discrete closed set $C$ $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is finite; from this characterization it follows plainly that $T$ is an ideal of $C(X)$.

I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we have that any $f\in T$ (i) vanishes on any accumulation point $x$ of $X$ (because if $f(x)\neq 0$ then $f$ would be non-zero in a closed nbd ox $x$, an infinite set). Moerover (ii) on any closed discrete subset $C$ of $X$, $f$ is different from zero only on finitely many points (because any subset of $C$, in particular $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is closed in $C$ and also in $X$). Conversely, any $f$ in $C(X)$ verifying (i) and (ii) necessarily has a zero in any infinite closed set (indeed, any infinite closed set of $X$ either possesses an accumulation point, thus a zero of $f$ by (i), or is discrete, and has a zero by (ii)).

In conclusion, $f\in T$ if and only if $D(X)\subset\{f=0\}$ and for any discrete closed set $C$ the set $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is finite; from this characterization it follows plainly that $T$ is an ideal of $C(X)$.

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I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we also have that any $f\in T$ if and only if   (i) $f$ vanishes identically vanishes on the derivate setany accumulation point $x$ of $X$, and   (ii) $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Indeed,because if $f\in T$ and $x$ is an accumulation point of$f(x)\neq 0$ then $X$ any$f$ would be non-zero in a closed nbd ofox $x$ is an, an infinite closed set, so has a zero). Moerover (ii) on any closed discrete subset $C$ of $f$$X$, and so $x$ itself$f$ is adifferent from zero of $f$, andonly on finitely many points (i) holds. If $S$ isbecause any infinite subset of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ there exists a zero of $f$ $C$, $x\in \overline{S} \subset\operatorname{supp}(f)$. Since in any nbd of $x$ there are points whereparticular $f$$\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is not zero, thus different from $x$,closed in $x$ is an accumulation point of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$,$C$ and also in $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact$X$).

  Conversely, assumeany $f$ verifiesin $C(X)$ verifying (i) and (ii), and let necessarily has a zero in any infinite closed set $C$ be(indeed, any infinite closed subsetset of $X$ containing no zeros of $f$. It has noeither possesses an accumulation points because these points are zerospoint, thus a zero of $f$ by (i). Since $C\subset \operatorname{supp}(f)$, or is discrete, and has a zero by (ii) $C$ is finite, which proves that $f\in T$).

We have thus shownIn conclusion, $f\in T$ if and only if $D(X)\subset\{f=0\}$ and for any discrete closed set $C$ $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is finite; from this characterization it follows plainly that $T$ is the intersection of thean ideal of all functions vanishing on $D(X)$ and the ideal of all functions wit countably compact support$C(X)$.

I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we also have that $f\in T$ if and only if (i) $f$ vanishes identically on the derivate set of $X$, and (ii) $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Indeed, if $f\in T$ and $x$ is an accumulation point of $X$ any closed nbd of $x$ is an infinite closed set, so has a zero of $f$, and so $x$ itself is a zero of $f$, and (i) holds. If $S$ is any infinite subset of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ there exists a zero of $f$ , $x\in \overline{S} \subset\operatorname{supp}(f)$. Since in any nbd of $x$ there are points where $f$ is not zero, thus different from $x$, $x$ is an accumulation point of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$, and $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

  Conversely, assume $f$ verifies (i) and (ii), and let $C$ be any closed subset of $X$ containing no zeros of $f$. It has no accumulation points because these points are zeros of $f$ by (i). Since $C\subset \operatorname{supp}(f)$, by (ii) $C$ is finite, which proves that $f\in T$.

We have thus shown that $T$ is the intersection of the ideal of all functions vanishing on $D(X)$ and the ideal of all functions wit countably compact support.

I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we have that any $f\in T$   (i) vanishes on any accumulation point $x$ of $X$  (because if $f(x)\neq 0$ then $f$ would be non-zero in a closed nbd ox $x$, an infinite set). Moerover (ii) on any closed discrete subset $C$ of $X$, $f$ is different from zero only on finitely many points (because any subset of $C$, in particular $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is closed in $C$ and also in $X$). Conversely, any $f$ in $C(X)$ verifying (i) and (ii) necessarily has a zero in any infinite closed set (indeed, any infinite closed set of $X$ either possesses an accumulation point, thus a zero of $f$ by (i), or is discrete, and has a zero by (ii)).

In conclusion, $f\in T$ if and only if $D(X)\subset\{f=0\}$ and for any discrete closed set $C$ $\{f\neq0\}\cap C$ is finite; from this characterization it follows plainly that $T$ is an ideal of $C(X)$.

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I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we also have that $f\in T$ if and only if (i) $f$ vanishes identically on the derivate set of $X$, and (ii) $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Indeed, if $f\in T$ and $x$ is an accumulation point of $X$ any closed nbd of $x$ is an infinite closed set, so has a zero of $f$, and so $x$ itself is a zero of $f$, and (i) holds. If $S$ is anany infinite subset of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ there exists a zero of $f$ , $x\in \overline{S} \subset\operatorname{supp}(f)$. Since in any nbd of $x$ there are points where $f$ is not zero, thus different from $x$, $x$ is an accumulation point of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$, and $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Conversely, assume $f$ verifies (i) and (ii), and let $C$ be any closed subset of $X$ withcontaining no zeros of $f$. It has no accumulation points because these points are zeros of $f$ by (i). Since $C\subset \operatorname{supp}(f)$, by (ii) $C$ is finite, thatwhich proves that $f\in T$.

We have thus provedshown that $T$ is the intersection of the ideal of all functions vanishing on $D(X)$ and the ideal of all functions wit countably compact support.

I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we also have that $f\in T$ if and only if (i) $f$ vanishes identically on the derivate set of $X$, and (ii) $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Indeed, if $f\in T$ and $x$ is an accumulation point of $X$ any closed nbd of $x$ is an infinite closed set, so has a zero of $f$, and $x$ itself is a zero of $f$, and (i) holds. If $S$ is an infinite subset of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ there exists a zero of $f$ , $x\in \overline{S} \subset\operatorname{supp}(f)$. Since in any nbd of $x$ there are points where $f$ is not zero, $x$ is an accumulation point of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$, and $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Conversely, assume $f$ verifies (i) and (ii), and let $C$ be any closed subset of $X$ with no zeros of $f$. It has no accumulation points because these points are zeros of $f$ by (i). Since $C\subset \operatorname{supp}(f)$, by (ii) $C$ is finite, that proves that $f\in T$.

We have thus proved that $T$ is the intersection of the ideal of all functions vanishing on $D(X)$ and the ideal of all functions wit countably compact support.

I think $T$ is always an ideal of $C(X)$.

First note that the condition $f\in T$ may be rephrased as: $f$ possesses a zero in any infinite closed subset $C\subset X$. Indeed, if $f\notin T$, there is $g\in C(X)$ for which the closed set $C:=\{fg=1\}$ is infinite and $f$ has no zero there. Conversely, if $C$ is a closed subset of $X$ where $f$ does not vanish, we can extend $1/f_{|C}$ to a $g\in C(X)$, therefore such that the set $\{fg=1\}$ is infinite.

As a consequence we also have that $f\in T$ if and only if (i) $f$ vanishes identically on the derivate set of $X$, and (ii) $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Indeed, if $f\in T$ and $x$ is an accumulation point of $X$ any closed nbd of $x$ is an infinite closed set, so has a zero of $f$, and so $x$ itself is a zero of $f$, and (i) holds. If $S$ is any infinite subset of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ there exists a zero of $f$ , $x\in \overline{S} \subset\operatorname{supp}(f)$. Since in any nbd of $x$ there are points where $f$ is not zero, thus different from $x$, $x$ is an accumulation point of $\operatorname{supp}(f)$, and $\operatorname{supp}(f)$ is countably compact.

Conversely, assume $f$ verifies (i) and (ii), and let $C$ be any closed subset of $X$ containing no zeros of $f$. It has no accumulation points because these points are zeros of $f$ by (i). Since $C\subset \operatorname{supp}(f)$, by (ii) $C$ is finite, which proves that $f\in T$.

We have thus shown that $T$ is the intersection of the ideal of all functions vanishing on $D(X)$ and the ideal of all functions wit countably compact support.

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