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Aug 23, 2013 at 1:07 comment added Thomas Actually, I use a^-1b^-1ab, but a^-1=a anyway in this group, so it is ab^-1ab
Aug 22, 2013 at 15:00 comment added Thomas Woops, didn't see the last part. Sorry. Still, how do I check?
Aug 22, 2013 at 14:54 comment added Thomas That it is what? Infinite? Simple? Also, how will I be able to check? Some group theory program? By hand?
Aug 22, 2013 at 14:51 comment added Neil Hoffman I think you may be able to check that the group normally generated by $[a,b]^{10}, ([a,b]^4 b)^n$ for $n\geq 7$ is infinite index in $\langle a, b| a^2,b^3,c^7\rangle$, which is an index 2 subgroup of a hyperbolic triangle group.
Aug 22, 2013 at 14:49 history edited Neil Hoffman CC BY-SA 3.0
Explained the differences in the computation with different definitions for [a,b].
Aug 22, 2013 at 14:25 comment added Thomas I also checked what you said earlier, and you're right, magma should show infinity, but it shows zero because it couldn't figure it out. Is there a way to check whether it is infinite? Also, are there any other groups theory calculators that you recommend?
Aug 22, 2013 at 12:41 comment added Thomas I checked on magma, and the presentation you used does result in the trivial group, so they are different.
Aug 22, 2013 at 11:44 history edited Neil Hoffman CC BY-SA 3.0
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Aug 22, 2013 at 11:44 comment added Thomas [a,b]=ab^-1ab, not abab^-1, I'm not sure, but it may make a difference.
Aug 22, 2013 at 11:22 history answered Neil Hoffman CC BY-SA 3.0