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Feb 23, 2013 at 16:14 comment added Asaf Karagila Andreas, I agree. But that's the historical question. An interesting question which I have never really given my full attention (for a sufficient time, anyway) is whether or not when the cardinals are not well-founded there is a decreasing sequence. The only case to verify is when there are no Dedekind-finite sets, and DC still fails.
Feb 23, 2013 at 13:43 comment added Andreas Blass In the absence of DC, one might modify your second question to ask about the status of "The ordering of cardinals is well-founded."
Feb 22, 2013 at 23:46 comment added Asaf Karagila I have this huge fantasy that the partition principle will not prove the axiom of choice, that would be epic in ways beyond words. I'd love for that to happen.
Feb 22, 2013 at 23:27 history answered Asaf Karagila CC BY-SA 3.0