Timeline for Question on "publication List" for applying to post-doctoral jobs
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| Oct 26, 2012 at 23:39 | comment | added | user9072 | Thanks for the clarfification. I read your answer 'stressed' differently than intended it seems. Sorry for my possibly overly impatient reaction. | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 19:44 | comment | added | Delio Mugnolo | Really, I do not understand what kind of information I am ignoring. Most of what you say sounds very reasonable, but in my opinion you are simply interpreting Analysis Now's vague description of his problem, just like I am doing. And just to be clear: he/she writes "My question is: how important is it to post my papers in arXiv." My first answer was, more or less: "Not quite important. Anyway, if the only reason for not arXiving is fear of copyright infringement, then you probably ought to know that [...]". I still have the impression that I have been sticking to his questions. | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 16:21 | history | made wiki | Post Made Community Wiki by Ben Webster♦ | ||
| Oct 26, 2012 at 12:19 | comment | added | user9072 | ... In any case, as I said I have no interest in discussing whether or not it is reasonable not to post to the arXiv. OP said they cannot/rather do not want to/whatever. The question is whether it is a potential problem that the papers are not on the arXiv. Not whether this problem could be avoided in the first pace. And whether or not they are or not on a personal webpage seems important to assess this. That you ignore this information seems problematic. | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 12:13 | comment | added | user9072 | ... this a reasonable reason but it exists. Also, this might be closer to the reason in this case, if it is on the arXiv than it is a lot more visible than on a private webpage. If somebody in my field posts to the arXiv chances are I notice the paper instantly, if it is on their webpage then not. You assertion "I simply cannot understand what kind of extra permission from your colleagues you may need." Depends on the meaning of "need." If, say, a senior colleague explcitly or implictly expresses disaproval of (you) using the arXiv you might not want to do it even if you could. ... | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 12:08 | comment | added | user9072 | Original Poster (the person asking the question, Analysis Now) said the papers are on her/his website anyway; so they are no matter what in principle accessible. So the question is not whether it is important that the paper is in principle available but only whether it is of specific relevance that the thing is on the arXiv. And, then I said that you hinted at a reason, namely that delay in publishing can get documented (more so than if you have things only on your personal page). Then some people just don't like the atXiv (eg as also cranks post there); I do not find ... | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 11:55 | comment | added | Delio Mugnolo | b) If instead the issue is that the manuscript is not quite a submitted article but rather only a rough draft, then of course your coauthors have any right to ask you to keep it in your computer and not upload it to the arXiv (and, incidentally, not even to your web page). There is not much to discuss, I guess. (what is an OP?) | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 11:53 | comment | added | Delio Mugnolo | I am sorry, I do not get what you are trying to tell me. Even after reading the original question again I cannot understand what other issues can exist and/or have been explicitly mentioned by Analysis now. To make my point clearer: a) If somebody raises a question (or expresses a conjecture) and you write (and submit!) a paper on it, then the paper is yours, period. I simply cannot understand what kind of extra permission from your colleagues you may need. Is this what you are alluding to? | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 11:11 | comment | added | user9072 | Since your answer was posted well after the respective edit, I do not get at all your last sentence; the papers are (or will be) apparently on OPs website. Also addressing 1) this should be taken into account. In addition the precise phrasing suggests other reasons than copyright-concerns for not wanting to post to the arXiv. (Incidentally, you yourself hint at a reason for not wanting to use arXiv; though it seems a different one.) [I have no intention to start an arXiv debate, and I use it actively; I merely wanted to point out that large parts of the answer do not relate to the question.] | |
| Oct 26, 2012 at 7:51 | history | answered | Delio Mugnolo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |