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I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Addendum.
From the reference Igor provided (Nobuaki Mutoh,
"The Polyhedra of Maximal Volume Inscribed in the Unit Sphere and of Minimal Volume Circumscribed about the Unit Sphere," 2009), here is a piece of Mutoh's Fig.1,
which computationally verifies the earlier
derivation of the max volume inscribed 8-vertex polyhedron by Berman and Haynes ("Volumes of polyhedra inscribed in the unit sphere in $\mathbb{R}^3$," Math. Ann., 188(1): 78-84, 1970), as mentioned in the comments:
This is surely a candidate for achieving the min of $A^3/V^2$!
I thank Jean-Marc, Igor, and Anton for the rapid convergence
to what I sought.
And
...And then a bit later to Henry for showing that this candidate does not in fact
achieve the best ratio!
Here is Henry's polyhedron, if I have interpreted him correctly:
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edited Aug 29 2011 at 11:32 |
I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Addendum.
From the reference Igor provided (Nobuaki Mutoh,
"The Polyhedra of Maximal Volume Inscribed in the Unit Sphere and of Minimal Volume Circumscribed about the Unit Sphere," 2009), here is a piece of Mutoh's Fig.1,
which computationally verifies the earlier
derivation of the max volume inscribed 8-vertex polyhedron by Berman and Haynes ("Volumes of polyhedra inscribed in the unit sphere in $\mathbb{R}^3$," Math. Ann., 188(1): 78-84, 1970), as mentioned in the comments:
This is surely a candidate for achieving the min of $A^3/V^2$!
I thank Jean-Marc, Igor, and Anton for the rapid convergence
to what I sought.
And then to Henry for showing that this candidate does not in fact
achieve the best ratio!
Here is Henry's polyhedron, if I have interpreted him correctly:
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edited Aug 29 2011 at 10:49 |
I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Addendum.
From the reference Igor provided (Nobuaki Mutoh,
"The Polyhedra of Maximal Volume Inscribed in the Unit Sphere and of Minimal Volume Circumscribed about the Unit Sphere," 2009), here is a piece of Mutoh's Fig.1,
which computationally verifies the earlier
derivation of the max volume inscribed 8-vertex polyhedron by Berman and Haynes ("Volumes of polyhedra inscribed in the unit sphere in $\mathbb{R}^3$," Math. Ann., 188(1): 78-84, 1970), as mentioned in the comments:
This is surely a candidate for achieving the max min of $A^3/V^2$!
I thank Jean-Marc, Igor, and Anton for the rapid convergence
to what I sought. MO at its And then to Henry for showing that this candidate does not in fact
achieve the best ratio!:-)
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edited Aug 28 2011 at 23:49 |
I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Addendum.
From the reference Igor provided (Nobuaki Mutoh,
"The Polyhedra of Maximal Volume Inscribed in the Unit Sphere and of Minimal Volume Circumscribed about the Unit Sphere," 2009), here is a piece of Mutoh's Fig.1,
which computationally verifies the earlier
derivation of the max volume inscribed 8-vertex polyhedron by Berman and Haynes ("Volumes of polyhedra inscribed in the unit sphere in $\mathbb{R}^3$," Math. Ann., 188(1): 78-84, 1970), as mentioned in the comments:
This is surely a candidate ! for achieving the max of $A^3/V^2$!
I thank Jean-Marc, Igor, and Anton for the rapid convergence
to what I sought. MO at its best! :-)
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edited Aug 28 2011 at 23:23 |
I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Addendum.
From the reference Igor provided (Nobuaki Mutoh,
"The Polyhedra of Maximal Volume Inscribed in the Unit Sphere and of Minimal Volume Circumscribed about the Unit Sphere," 2009), here is a piece of Mutoh's Fig.1,
which computationally verifies the earlier
derivation of the max volume inscribed 8-vertex polyhedron by Berman and Haynes ("Volumes of polyhedra inscribed in the unit sphere in $\mathbb{R}^3$," Math. Ann., 188(1): 78-84, 1970), as mentioned in the comments:
This is surely a candidate! I thank Jean-Marc, Igor, and Anton for the rapid convergence
to what I sought. MO at its best! :-)
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edited Aug 28 2011 at 23:15 |
I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Addendum.
From the reference Igor provided : (Nobuaki Mutoh,
"The Polyhedra of Maximal Volume Inscribed in the Unit Sphere and of Minimal Volume Circumscribed about the Unit Sphere," 20092009), here is a piece of Mutoh's Fig.1,
which computationally verifies the earlier
derivation of the max volume inscribed 8-vertex polyhedron by Berman and Haynes ("Volumes of polyhedra inscribed in the unit sphere in $\mathbb{R}^3$," Math. Ann., 188(1): 78-84, 1970), as mentioned in the comments:
This is surely a candidate!
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edited Aug 28 2011 at 15:50 |
I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Addendum.
From the reference Igor provided: Nobuaki Mutoh,
"The Polyhedra of Maximal Volume Inscribed in the Unit Sphere and of Minimal Volume Circumscribed about the Unit Sphere," 2009:
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asked Aug 28 2011 at 14:48 |
Optimal 8-vertex isoperimetric polyhedron?
I know from Marcel Berger's
Geometry Revealed:
A Jacob's Ladder to Modern Higher Geometry
(p.531)
that it is not yet established which polyhedron in $\mathbb{R}^3$
on 8 vertices achieves the optimal isoperimetric ratio $A^3/V^2$,
where $A$ is the surface area and $V$ the volume.
Berger says, "We also know that the cube ... [is] not the best for $v=8$"
(where $v$ is the number of vertices).
Many other aspects of isoperimetry for polyhedra are unresolved,
but this one especially interests me.
It is not even clear to me that it is known that there is an optimal polyhedron for each $v$.
I've been trying to imagine what would be a strong candidate for
an optimal 8-vertex polyhedron. I've been unsuccessful in finding
information on this, although it seems likely to have been explored
computationally. Does anyone have a candidate, or know of
one proposed/calculated? A pointer or reference would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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