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I have enjoyed the other answers very much. But perhaps it
would be desirable to balance the discussion somewhat with
a counterpoint, by mentioning a few of the
counter-intuitive situations that can occur when the axiom
of choice fails. For although mathematicians often point to
what are perceived as strange consequences of AC, many of
the situations that can arise when one drops the axiom are
also quite bizarre.
- There can be a nonempty tree $T$, with no leaves, but which has no infinite
path. That is, every finite path in the tree can be extended one more step, but there is no
path that goes forever.
- A real number can be in the closure of a set $X\subset\mathbb{R}$, but
not the limit of any sequence from $X$.
- A function $f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}$ can be continuous
in the sense that $x_n\to x\Rightarrow f(x_n)\to f(x)$,
but not in the $\epsilon\ \delta$ sense.
- A set can be infinite, but have no countably infinite subset.
- Thus, it can be incorrect to say that $\aleph_0$ is the smallest infinite
cardinality, since there can be infinite sets of
incomparable size with $\aleph_0$. (see this MO
answer.)
- There can be an equivalence relation on $\mathbb{R}$, such that the number of equivalence classes is strictly greater than the size of $\mathbb{R}$. (See François's excellent answer.) This is a consequence of AD, and thus relatively consistent with DC and countable AC.
- There can be a field with no algebraic closure.
- The rational field $\mathbb{Q}$ can have different nonisomorphic algebraic closures (due to Läuchli, see Timothy Chow's comment below). Indeed, $\mathbb{Q}$ can have an uncountable algebraic closure, as well as a countable one.
- There can be a vector space with no basis.
- There can be a vector space with bases of different
cardinalities.
- The reals can be a countable union of countable
sets.
- Consequently, the theory of Lebesgue measure can fail totally.
- The first uncountable ordinal $\omega_1$ can be
singular.
- More generally, it can be that every uncountable $\aleph_\alpha$ is
singular. Hence, there are no infinite regular uncountable
well-ordered cardinals.
- See the Wikipedia
page
for additional examples.
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edited Jan 2 2012 at 22:59
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I have enjoyed the other answers very much. But perhaps it
would be desirable to balance the discussion somewhat with
a counterpoint, by mentioning a few of the
counter-intuitive situations that can occur when the axiom
of choice fails. For although mathematicians often point to
what are perceived as strange consequences of AC, many of
the situations that can arise when one drops the axiom are
also quite bizarre.
- There can be a nonempty tree $T$, with no leaves, but which has no infinite
path. That is, every finite path in the tree can be extended one more step, but there is no
path that goes forever.
- A real number can be in the closure of a set $X\subset\mathbb{R}$, but
not the limit of any sequence from $X$.
- A function $f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}$ can be continuous
in the sense that $x_n\to x\Rightarrow f(x_n)\to f(x)$,
but not in the $\epsilon\ \delta$ sense.
- A set can be infinite, but have no countably infinite subset.
- Thus, it can be incorrect to say that $\aleph_0$ is the smallest infinite
cardinality, since there can be infinite sets of
incomparable size with $\aleph_0$. (see this MO
answer.)
- There can be an equivalence relation on $\mathbb{R}$, such that the number of equivalence classes is strictly greater than the size of $\mathbb{R}$. (See François's excellent answer.) This is a consequence of AD, and thus relatively consistent with DC and countable AC.
- There can be a field with no algebraic closure.
- The rational field $\mathbb{Q}$ can have different nonisomorphic algebraic closures (due to Läuchli, see Timothy Chow's comment below). Indeed, $\mathbb{Q}$ can have an uncountable algebraic closure.
- There can be a vector space with no basis.
- There can be a vector space with bases of different
cardinalities.
- The reals can be a countable union of countable
sets.
- Consequently, the theory of Lebesgue measure can fail totally.
- The first uncountable ordinal $\omega_1$ can be
singular.
- More generally, it can be that every uncountable $\aleph_\alpha$ is
singular. Hence, there are no infinite regular uncountable
well-ordered cardinals.
- See the Wikipedia
page
for additional examples.
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edited Jul 15 2011 at 13:46
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I have enjoyed the other answers very much. But perhaps it
would be desirable to balance the discussion somewhat with
a counterpoint, by mentioning a few of the
counter-intuitive situations that can occur when the axiom
of choice fails. For although mathematicians often point to
what are perceived as strange consequences of AC, many of
the situations that can arise when one drops the axiom are
also quite bizarre.
- There can be a nonempty tree $T$, with no leaves, but which has no infinite
path. That is, every finite path in the tree can be extended one more step, but there is no
path that goes forever.
- A real number can be in the closure of a set $X\subset\mathbb{R}$, but
not the limit of any sequence from $X$.
- A function $f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}$ can be continuous
in the sense that $x_n\to x\Rightarrow f(x_n)\to f(x)$,
but not in the $\epsilon\ \delta$ sense.
- A set can be infinite, but have no countably infinite subset.
- Thus, it can be incorrect to say that $\aleph_0$ is the smallest infinite
cardinality, since there can be infinite sets of
incomparable size with $\aleph_0$. (see this MO
answer.)
- There can be a field with no algebraic closure.
- There can be a vector space with no basis.
- There can be a vector space with bases of different
cardinalities.
- The reals can be a countable union of countable
sets.
- Consequently, the theory of Lebesgue measure can fail totally.
- The first uncountable ordinal $\omega_1$ can be
singular.
- More generally, it can be that every uncountable $\aleph_\alpha$ is
singular. Hence, there are no infinite regular uncountable
well-ordered cardinals.
- See the Wikipedia
page
for additional examples.
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edited Jul 15 2011 at 13:40
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I have enjoyed the other answers very much. But perhaps it
would be desirable to balance the discussion somewhat with
a counterpoint, by mentioning a few of the
counter-intuitive situations that can occur when the axiom
of choice fails. For although mathematicians often point to
what are perceived as strange consequences of AC, many of
the situations that can arise when one drops the axiom are
also quite bizarre.
- There can be a nonempty tree $T$, with no leaves, but which has no infinite
path. That is, every finite path in the tree can be extended one more step, but there is no
path that goes forever.
- A real number can be in the closure of a set $X\subset\mathbb{R}$, but
not the limit of any sequence from $X$.
- A function $f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}$ can be continuous
in the sense that $x_n\to x\Rightarrow f(x_n)\to f(x)$,
but not in the $\epsilon\ \delta$ sense.
- A set can be infinite, but have no countably infinite subset.
- Thus, it can be incorrect to say that $\aleph_0$ is the smallest infinite
cardinality, since there can be infinite sets of
incomparable size with $\aleph_0$. (see this MO
answer.)
- There can be a field with no algebraic closure.
- There can be a vector space with no basis.
- There can be a vector space with bases of different
cardinalities.
- The reals can be a countable union of countable
sets.
- Consequently, the theory of Lebesgue measure can fail totally.
- The first uncountable ordinal $\omega_1$ can be
singular.
- More generally, it can be that every $\aleph_\alpha$ is
singular. Hence, there are no infinite regular
well-ordered cardinals.
- See the Wikipedia
page
for additional examples.
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answered Jul 15 2011 at 13:12
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I have enjoyed the other answers very much. But perhaps it
would be desirable to balance the discussion somewhat with
a counterpoint, by mentioning a few of the
counter-intuitive situations that can occur when the axiom
of choice fails. For although mathematicians often point to
what are perceived as strange consequences of AC, many of
the situations that can arise when one drops the axiom are
also quite bizarre.
- There can be a nonempty tree $T$, with no leaves, but which has no infinite
path. That is, every finite path in the tree can be extended one more step, but there is no
path that goes forever.
- A real number can be in the closure of a set $X\subset\mathbb{R}$, but
not the limit of any sequence from $X$.
- A function $f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}$ can be continuous
in the sense that $x_n\to x\Rightarrow f(x_n)\to f(x)$,
but not in the $\epsilon\ \delta$ sense.
- A set can be infinite, but have no countably infinite subset.
- Thus, it can be incorrect to say that $\aleph_0$ is the smallest infinite
cardinality, since there can be infinite sets of
incomparable size with $\aleph_0$. (see this MO
answer.)
- There can be a field with no algebraic closure.
- There can be a vector space with no basis.
- There can be a vector space with bases of different
cardinalities.
- The reals can be a countable union of countable
sets.
- The first uncountable ordinal $\omega_1$ can be
singular.
- More generally, it can be that every $\aleph_\alpha$ is
singular. Hence, there are no infinite regular
well-ordered cardinals.
- See the Wikipedia
page
for additional examples.
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