Edit: The question is whether a particular description first version of a number is "concrete" enough to consider the number "known" from it; one could say that this is accomplished if we have located the number precisely within the linear ordering of all numbers. For practical purposes, that means giving answer proposed a decimal expansion (or binary expansion, which is theoretically and computationally equivalent). Although most of the other answers endorse some criterion like "the algorithm must output the expansion in polynomial time", that seems either unnecessarily restrictive or unnecessarily generous depending on your position based on the knowability of very large numbers (generous, in that even the theoretical best timeKolmogorov complexity, logarithmic in the size of the numberbut as Scott Aaronson commented, this is not good enough to really describe truly large numbers; very restrictive , in that you might feel that since primes all have rather low complexity: primality not being able very hard to compute design an inefficient test for, the digits n'th prime $p_n$ has complexity at all is enough).
It does seem like saying "the most $10^{10^{10000}}$'th prime" is somehow cheating, though\log n \approx \log\log p_n$. It's too short! It's barely better than saying "It appears that prime, you know which one what I mean"had in mind was more or less what he wrote in his answer.Thus
However, I would like it seems to propose the criterion me that
An enumeration the issue of description complexity is part of what makes the question interesting: extremely large numbers should be expected to have extremely large complexity, for example "the number $2^n - 1$" or "and it is the n'th prime", generates "known" numbers if disparity between the Kolmogorov low complexity of some short description like C(5) and the decimal expansions high complexity of the numbers themselves is polynomial in the complexity digit string of C(5) itself which makes the corresponding descriptionsdescription seem not to be concrete. That is, there exists a polynomial p(c)More generally, depending only one may doubt the knowability of extremely large numbers on the enumeration, such grounds that for a particular description of complexity cthey cannot be written explicitly, as stated in the number it describes has complexity at most p(c)question.
That
So contrary to the claim that C(5) is , not a concrete description is "cheating" if it does not provide any significant information as to the identity of the a numberit specifies. Alas, Kolmogorov complexity seems rather nonconstructive as a criterion.
Note I think that my position due to its low complexity it is then that saying "the numbers C(n)much more concrete than its size would suggest, where for all k we define $C(k + 1) = 2^{C(k)} - 1$ and C(0) = 2" is not cheating, since the obvious description "C(n - 1) 1's its base-2 digits are easily listed; most numbers of its magnitude are wholly abstract and their digits in any base 2will never be known. In fact, where C(k + 1I am not entirely sure that a prime-enumerating algorithm which computes C(5) = ..." has basically the same complexity (both are linear in that time polynomial in C(4) (its number of n). On the other handbinary digits), "the n'th prime" is probably cheatingas Scott suggests, since even for $n = 2^k$is actually especially concrete, unless it takes an input significantly smaller than C(5) (note that C(5) is about the complexity of whose digits C(5)'th prime).
That isat most $\log k = \log \log n$, a computation may be efficient without being concrete. In the best way we have spirit of finding $p_n$ is just an exhaustive searchAlastair Litterick's answer, I'd like to suggest that
An algorithm for listing (some infinite family of) primes which is worse than linear efficient in n; $n = 2^{2^k}$ the sense of Scott's answer is even more extremealso "concrete" if the length of its output is superpolynomial in the length of its input.
Of course
More generally, a decent prime-listing algorithm I suppose it would improve this, though probably not enough make sense to be iterated-logarithmic. For this reasonquantify just how much larger the output is, I like Alastair Litterick's answerfor the purposes of probing very distant primes.

