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edited Jul 25 2010 at 12:37

Minhyong Kim
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Having thought about it a bit more, it occurs to me that this is yet another situation where Langlands urges us to go beyond a classical framework in seeking answers to non-abelian questions. For example, when we associate to an odd Artin represention

$$\rho:Gal(\bar{\mathbb{Q}}/\mathbb{Q})\rightarrow Aut(V)$$

of dimension two an Artin $L$-function we can perfectly sensibly assert that the $a_n$'s follows a pattern. When asked what that pattern is, the answer, satisfying to some and mysterious to others, is that$$\sum a_nq^n$$is a modular form. This is the kind of thing that comes out of Langlands.

Now, if we want to 'characterize,' say, odd $GL_2$ Galoisian sets, we can say the following: Enumerate the normalized holomorphic Hecke (new) eigenforms $f$ of weight one sorted by level $N$ and character $\epsilon$.For each such form, run over the prime numbers $p$ not dividing $N$, and take the number $a_p$ defined by the equationfor the $p$-th Hecke operator $T_p$. Now look at the set$S_f$ of primes $p$ such that $$(p,N)=1, \epsilon (p)=1, a_p=2.$$These $S_f$'s are exactly the odd $GL_2$ Galoisian sets.

Perhaps it's unreasonable to want more from the Langlands' programme. Whether or not this is the final word on all such questions, well, that's a different matter.

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edited Jul 25 2010 at 9:20

Minhyong Kim
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Solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian sets and the Langlands programme

Note: I've revised the question just a little bit in the hope of making it easier.

Now call a set of primes *a solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian set* if it is of the form $S_F$ for some solvable extension $F$ of $GL_2$-type.

The question then is: can one use the Langlands program (or anything else) to give a sensible characterization of solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian sets?

There is an awkward sort of guess I

One could obviously change this question in any way that would make it more tractable. One could try to characterize, but I would rather see what for example:

-Solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian sets, where the experts say$GL_2$-field $F$ is further required to be solvable;

-Odd $GL_2$ Galoisian sets: $S_F$ where $F$ is the fixed field of a representation $\rho_f$ arising from a holomorphic modular form $f$ of weight one;

-Odd $GL_2$ Galoisan sets of conductor $N$, where we further require the form $f$ to have level $N$;

and so on. The last case probably admits a tautological answer of sorts, in that we can in principle list the finitely many forms (sorted by Dirichlet characters $\epsilon$), and then make some statement about the $p$'s whereIs it entirely unreasonable to hope for something more compact?

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edited Jul 24 2010 at 14:32

Minhyong Kim
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Given an algebraic number field $F$, which we may as well take to be Galois over $\mathbb{Q}$, we denote by $S_F$ the set of rational primes that split in $F$. Sets of the form $S_F$ are called Galoisian. At some point, there was a discussion

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/11688/why-do-congruence-conditions-not-suffice-to-determine-which-primes-split-in-non-a

of the fact that the abelian Galoisian sets, that is, $S_F$ corresponding to $F$ abelian over $\mathbb{Q}$, are exactly the sets of primes defined by congruence conditions.

A while later, Matthew Emerton gave this nice answer

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/11747/galoisian-sets-of-prime-numbers

to a question of Chandan Singh Dalawat about non-abelian Galoisian sets.

I made a comment there I thought I would upgrade to a question. As Matthew points out, Neukirch's thought remark that the Langlands program would provide provides a characterization of all Galoisian sets is probably meant as a metaphor for some other process. However, I couldn't help but hope that the characterization could be taken literally, at least for some special families. For example, we will refer to a number field $F$ as being of $GL_2$ type if it is the fixed field of $Ker(\rho)$, where $$\rho: Gal(\bar{\mathbb{Q}}/\mathbb{Q})\rightarrow GL_2(\mathbb{C})$$ is an irreducible two-dimensional Artin representation of $Gal(\bar{\mathbb{Q}}/\mathbb{Q})$*. Now call a set of primes *a solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian set* if it is of the form $S_F$ for some solvable extension $F$ of $GL_2$-type.

The question then is: can one use the Langlands program (or anything else) to give a sensible characterization of solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian sets?

There is an awkward sort of guess I could make, but I would rather see what the experts say.

*The idea that we should simply organize fields in this manner correspending corresponding to representations is perhaps a valuable perspective coming out of the Langlands program.

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edited Jul 24 2010 at 12:44

Chandan Singh Dalawat
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Given an algebraic number field $F$, which we may as well take to be Galois over $\mathbb{Q}$, we denote by $S_F$ the set of rational primes that split in $F$. Sets of the form $S_F$ are call called Galoisian. At some point, there was a discussion

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/11688/why-do-congruence-conditions-not-suffice-to-determine-which-primes-split-in-non-a

of the fact that the abelian Galoisian sets, that is, $S_F$ corresponding to $F$ abelian over $\mathbb{Q}$, are exactly the sets of primes defined by congruence conditions.

A while later, Matthew Emerton gave this nice answer

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/11747/galoisian-sets-of-prime-numbers

to a question of Chandan Singh Dalawat about non-abelian Galoisian sets.

I made a comment there I thought I would upgrade to a question. As Matthew points out, Neukirch's thought that the Langlands program would provide a characterization of all Galoisian sets is probably meant as a metaphor for some other process. However, I couldn't help but hope that the characterization could be taken literally, at least for some special families. For example, we will refer to a number field $F$ as being of $GL_2$ type if it is the fixed field of $Ker(\rho)$, where $$\rho: Gal(\bar{\mathbb{Q}}/\mathbb{Q})\rightarrow GL_2(\mathbb{C})$$ is an irreducible two-dimensional Artin representation of $Gal(\bar{\mathbb{Q}}/\mathbb{Q})$*. Now call a set of primes *a solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian set* if it is of the form $S_F$ for some solvable extension $F$ of $GL_2$-type.

The question then is: can one use the Langlands program (or anything else) to give a sensible characterization of solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian sets?

There is an awkward sort of guess I could make, but I would rather see what the experts say.

*The idea that we should simply organize fields in this manner correspending to representations is perhaps a valuable perspective coming out of the Langlands program.

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asked Jul 24 2010 at 12:09

Minhyong Kim
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Solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian sets

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/11688/why-do-congruence-conditions-not-suffice-to-determine-which-primes-split-in-non-a

of the fact that the abelian Galoisian sets, that is, $S_F$ corresponding to $F$ abelian over $\mathbb{Q}$, are exactly the sets of primes defined by congruence conditions.

A while later, Matthew Emerton gave this nice answer

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/11747/galoisian-sets-of-prime-numbers

to a question of Chandan Singh Dalawat about non-abelian Galoisian sets.

The question then is: can one use the Langlands program (or anything else) to give a sensible characterization of solvable $GL_2$ Galoisian sets?

There is an awkward sort of guess I could make, but I would rather see what the experts say.

*The idea that we should simply organize fields in this manner correspending to representations is perhaps a valuable perspective coming out of the Langlands program.

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