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### Which ordinals are proof-theoretic ordinals?

Few months ago I have posted this question on MO, but I must admit that at the time, admittedly, I had no idea on how technical proof-theoretic considerations can be. I have decided to revise this ...

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### Reconciling undecidability of FOL with Soundness and Completeness of Hilbert Proof Systems [closed]

I am reading Logic and Declarative Languages by Michael Downward, where he describes Hilbert's Proof System for First Order Logic and states that it is both sound and complete, he then adds that:
...

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### Goodstein's theorem without transfinite induction

Goodstein's theorem is an example of a theorem that is not provable from first order arithmetic. All proofs of the theorem seem to deploy transfinite induction and I've wondered if one could prove the ...

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### Provability of unprovability

I have three questions (without any real background, this is just something I've been wondering about recently)
Can PA prove that PA can't prove nor disprove, say, Goodstein theorem (or any natural ...

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### Godel's second incompleteness theorem for non-r.e. theories

R. Jeroslow in this paper proves that a non-recursively enumerable theory whose set of theorems is $\Delta_2$-definable may prove consistency of itself
but it can not prove 2-consistency of itself.
...

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### What defines a “short proof”?

I would like to know what the definition of a short proof is.
In Lance Fortnow’s article “The Status of the P Versus NP Problem”, Communications of the ACM, Vol. 52 No. 9, he says,
If a formula θ ...

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### About the proof of the proposition “there exists irrational numbers a, b such that a^b is rational”

What does the classical proof of the proposition "there exists irrational numbers a, b such that $a^b$ is rational" want to reveal? I know it has something to do with the difference between classical ...

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### Generalizing a result of Kreisel on $\omega$-consistency

In (reference)The following result is attributed to Kreisel:
Lemma1(Kreisel) If $T$ is an $\omega$-consistent theory in the language of arithmetic and $\pi$ is a true $\Pi_1$ sentence, then $T+\pi$ ...

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### Can infinity shorten proofs a lot?

I've just been asked for a good example of a situation in maths where using infinity can greatly shorten an argument. The person who wants the example wants it as part of a presentation to the general ...

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### Writing “Semi-Formal” Proofs

I am very interested in proofs. I have taken an undergraduate course
called "Logic and Set Theory" which I found very interesting, but ultimately
unsatisfying. My biggest disappointment has to do ...

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### What is known about the reverse mathematics of algebraic number fields?

I know work on the reverse mathematics of countable algebraic field extensions including Galois theory, notably including Dorais, Hirst, and Shafer http://arxiv.org/pdf/1209.4944v2.pdf. But algebraic ...

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### Can ZFC prove it cannot derive an inconsistency in $n$ steps?

Let $Con(\mathtt{ZFC}, n)$ denote the statement "$\mathtt{ZFC}$ cannot prove the contradiction within $n$ steps (or better within $n$ symbols) within a given proof system (say a natural deduction to ...

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### Notion of strongness in cut rule [closed]

I've read somewhere that the cut rule in sequent calculus
$$\frac{A \vdash \mathbf{C}, B \qquad A',\mathbf{C} \vdash B'}{A,A' \vdash B,B'} (\text{cut})$$
states that the $\mathbf{C}$ on the right is ...

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### What is the consistency strength of a standard model of ZF versus a transitive model?

A standard model of ZF need not be transitive, of course, and Joel David Hamkins' answer to Large cardinal axioms and Grothendieck universes gives Tarski sets as an interesting example.
I should ...

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### Higher order arithmetic and fragments of ZFC

Zbierski "Models for Higher Order Arithmetics" (BULL. DE L'ACAD. POLONAISE DES SCIENCES Serie des sciences math., astr. et phys. - Vol. XIX, No. 7, 1971) defines ZF$_n$ as ZFC with the power set axiom ...

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### Von Neumann's consistency proof

In the paper Zur Hilbertschen Beweistheorie, John Von Neumann has proposed a consistency proof for
a fragment of first-order arithmetic (the fragment without induction and with
the successor axioms ...

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### When was Bounded Zermelo set theory first formulated?

Bounded Zermelo set theory, and many variants named for MacLane in some way, are used in equiconsistency proofs for Simple Theory of Types plus infinity, and for the Elementary Theory of the Category ...

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### Which ordinals can be proof-theoretic ordinals of a reasonable theory?

When talking to a friend recently he asked a question - are there any reasonable first-order theories which have proof theoretic ordinal equal to small or large Veblen ordinal? I have then extended ...

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### Peano arithmetic vs. fast-growing hierarchy with pathological fundamental sequences

Fundamental sequence for a countable limit ordinal $\alpha$ is an increasing sequence $\{\alpha[i]\}$ of ordinals of length $\omega$ such that $\lim_{i\rightarrow\omega}\alpha[i]=\alpha$. There are ...

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### An interpretation of not-Con(PA)

Edit After Andreas Blass answer below and comments below the original post I have changed it to accommodate posters' remarks. I hope it is clear and makes more sense now.
Let $\mathrm{PA}$ be the ...

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### When are two proofs of the same theorem really different proofs

Many well-known theorems have lots of "different" proofs. Often new proofs of a theorem arise surprisingly from other branches of mathematics than the theorem itself.
When are two proofs really the ...

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### Reverse mathematics of meromorphic functions on Riemann surfaces

Various sources touch briefly on the reverse mathematics of measure theory and complex analysis. But I have found none on the uniformization theorem for Riemann surfaces or the existence of ...

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### Time in Girard's Geometry of Interaction

Jean-Yves Girard writes at the end of his paper
"Towards a Geometry of Interaction", page 105, that we have three intuitions about the nature of time:
time is logic modulo the order of rules,
time ...

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### Does formalizing math require search and creativity, or is it near-mechanical?

I remember reading somewhere that it takes about a week to convert a page of math into something a proof-assistant like Isabelle or HOL Light would accept.
Is this type of conversion something that ...

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### Models of PRA/EFA with induction on $X$ but not $\omega^X$

As I currently understand it, induction on formulas containing $N+1$ first-order quantifiers is required to prove the well-ordering of the ordinal $(\omega \uparrow\uparrow N) < \epsilon_0$, that ...

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### Essential incompleteness via diophantine formulas?

Work in the first order language of number theory, consisting of the symbols $\mathbf{0}$, $\mathbf{S}$, $\boldsymbol{+}$, and $\boldsymbol{\cdot}$, and let $Q$ denote Robinson's arithmetic.
By a ...

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### Results where complexity bounds implies finite number of test cases

We have all been there, when a formula works for the first 30 parameters,
but it is not sufficient for a proof. My question is where one can actually just check a finite number of cases, to conclude ...

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### Proof complexity of two directions of equivalency?

This question is not precise, but I believe has a precise formulation.
Consider a mathematical theorem which gives an equivalency between two conditions. As an extreme example:
\begin{theorem}
A ...

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### Does the totality of Ackermann's function prove the consistency of $\Sigma_1$-induction?

It is well known that Ackermann's function is not primitive recursive. Therefore, the theories of primitive recursive arithmetic (PRA) and of $\Sigma_1$-induction ($I\Sigma_1$) cannot prove the ...

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### Is it possible for a theorem to be constructive only in a non-constructive metatheory?

There are several theorems in category-theoretic logic which say something like, "any proposition in X logic that is provable in topos logic assuming (the law of excluded middle and) the axiom of ...

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### Gödel's speed up theorem and Matiyasevich polynomials

Unless I am sadly mistaken, there should exist a polynomial $ P\in\mathbb Z[X_1,X_2,\dots, X_n]$ coding for the speed-up theorem (for, say, ZFC), i.e. having the following properties :
1) P has an ...

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### notable inductive proofs relating to fractals

what are notable/ prominent inductive proofs relating to fractals?
the motivation for this question is:
fractals are very difficult mathematical objects to work with, and many ...

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### $n$th order arithmetic with predicates for orders

Two papers I have looked at lately axiomatize $n$-th order arithmetic in a single sorted language with predicates $Z_1,\dots,Z_n$ and axioms like $\forall x(Z_1(x)\vee\dots\vee Z_n(x))$ to say ...

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### Why is there no connection between fast-growing functions and complex analysis

I found myself wondering the other day whether the fast-growing functions from natural to naturals that are studied by people like proof theorists are the restriction to the naturals of analytic ...

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### what are the proof-theoretic ordinals of second-order arithmetic and ZFC? [duplicate]

are they still smaller than omega-1-CK?what are the notations of them?

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### What's a magical theorem in logic?

Some theorems are magical: their hypotheses are easy to meet, and when invoked (as lemmas) in the midst of an otherwise routine proof, they deliver the desired conclusion more or less ...

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### Consistency of Analysis (second order arithmetic)

Is there a proof of the consistency of Analysis (second order arithmetic), which is similar to Gentzen's proof of the consistency of arithmetic?
Update:
Which (different) methods can be used to ...

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### Nontrivial upper bounds on proof-theoretic ordinals of strong theories: do we have any?

Motivated by Consistency of Analysis (second order arithmetic) and Proof-Theoretic Ordinal of ZFC or Consistent ZFC Extensions?, I have the following question:
Are there any examples of strong ...

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### Are there non-diagonal proofs for Cantor's continuum and Godel's incompletness theorems?

There is a formal definition for the notion of a formal proof.
Question 1. Is there any formal definition for the notion of a diagonal formal proof?
Consider the following theorems both proved by ...

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### Can second order arithmetic make $\aleph_1^L$ countable?

Simpson's book Subsystems of Second Order Arithmetic shows $Z_2$ can interpret some fragments of ZF strong enough to give good theories of constructible sets and formalize statements like "there is a ...

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### When is a reduction not a reduction?

Every mathematician understands the concept of reducing a complicated problem to a simpler problem. "Without loss of generality, we may assume…" However, I've noticed that some kinds of ...

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### Existential instantiation in Hilbert-style deduction systems

In some deduction systems there is a rule* that given $\exists x (\phi(x))$, we can infer $\phi(y)$, where $y$ is a fresh variable (i.e., one we haven't yet mentioned in this context). Call this rule ...

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### A question about consistent fragments of formalized mathematical theories with Natural Deduction

Ref to : Sara Negri & Jan von Plato, Structural Proof Theory (2001).
In Ch.6 : Structural Proof Analysis of Axiomatic Theories [page 126-on], they
give a method of adding axioms to sequent ...

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### Stabilization of recursive approximation in $PA^-+I\Sigma_1^0$

Over any model M of $PA^-+I\Sigma_1^0$. Suppose $A\in [T]$ where $T$ is a $\Delta_2^0$-tree and $A$ is one isolated path. Further, $A$ is regular, i.e. $\forall n A\upharpoonright n$ has a code in ...

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### Show that Z2 is not conservative over PA

It is well-known that $\mathsf{ACA}_0$ is a conservative extension of PA. I assume this theorem gets a lot of attention because $\mathsf{Z}_2$ is not conservative over PA. Thus there ought to be ...

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### Is Kolmogorov complexity (KC) relevant for proof theory? [closed]

Note. The title was modified. Previous title was
"Every theorem t has a proof no more complex than~|t|. Is this right?"
The question ("Is Kolmogorov complexity (KC) relevant for proof theory?") ...

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### “Hard” separation results in reverse mathematics (or similar)

This is a fairly broad question. In particular, I specify 5 questions (Q1, Q2.1, Q2.2, Q3, Q4) which for me all fall under one umbrella. Since this is unreasonably broad, I'm really interested in an ...

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### What is the proof-theoretic ordinal of PA + Con(PA), PA + Con(PA + Con(PA)) etc., and why?

I seem to remember having read that the proof-theoretic ordinal (sup of ordinals the theory can prove well-ordered) of $\mathsf{PA} + \mathsf{Con}(\mathsf{PA})$ is the same as that of $\mathsf{PA}$, ...

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### What is the role of the (formalized) omega rule in Ramified Analysis?

In the 1960's, Feferman and Schutte did groundbreaking proof-theoretic work to find out the strength of predicative systems of second-order arithmetic. They used the ramified theory of types, a ...