# Tagged Questions

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### What axioms (other than choice) have a taming effect on the ordering of cardinalities?

Axiom of choice arranges all cardinalities into a well-ordered chain but without it their ordering can be wild in general ZF models, e.g. two cardinalities may not even have inf or sup. However, ...

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### If a result is apparently provable with AC, is actually independent of ZF?

Given the number of results that are independent of ZF. It seems that once you've found a proof of a theorem that uses the axiom of choice, the odds are that it will be independent of ZF. So my ...

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### Is it possible to show that an infinite set has a countable (infinite) subset, without using the Axiom of Choice?

Let X be an infinite set.
Is it possible to show the existence of a countably infinite subset of X without using the Axiom of Choice?

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### Proving Independence of Axioms by Exhibiting Models Which Don't Satisfy Our Intuition

I recently saw the proof of the independence of ZF (with allowance for multiple empty sets) and AC. The proof constructed the model based on a set theory generated by infinitely many empty sets and ...