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Suppose you have a draft paper that you think is pretty good, and people tell you that you should submit it to a top journal. How do you work out where to send it to?

Coming up with a shortlist isn't very hard. If you look for generalist journals, it probably begins:

How do you begin deciding amongst such a list, however? I know that you can look up eigenfactors and page counts, and you should also look for relevant editors and perhaps hope for fast turn around times. Depending on your politics, you might also ask how evil the journal's publisher is.

But for most people thinking about submitting to a good journal, these aren't really the right metrics. What I'd love to hear is something like "A tends to take this sort of articles, while B prefers X, Y and Z." This sort of information is surprisingly hard to find on the internet.

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    $\begingroup$ This was obviously asked in the early days, but if it were asked now, there would be immediate calls to make it CW. $\endgroup$
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I would personally add Acta Mathematica and Publications mathématiques de l'IHES to the short list.

It is possible to give some particularities of those five journals. For example, Publications de l'IHES is able to publish very long papers (up to 200-250 pages) while there are less common in other journals. Inventiones publishes more papers each year than the other, so it might be a little less selective (although it obviously publishes many top papers). Acta is somewhat shifted toward analysis.

I guess that the best criterion is still the editorial board, as Andy Putman suggested. The probability that your paper is turned down for bad reasons (what I call a false negative answer) is lower when it is handled by an editor that is interested.

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For submitting papers to "top" journals, I think the most important thing is to submit to an editor who is familiar with your subfield. Having an editor who can pick an appropriate referee and then understand the report enough to advocate for your paper is essential.

Also, I think it is very important to ask your mentors where you should submit and also which editors would be best.

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I've heard that Annals tends to like articles that finish off a problem.

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    $\begingroup$ And readers like Annals papers which do not cause problems! $\endgroup$ Jun 3, 2011 at 14:15
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Look at the "big name" of your field, and if they are still alive, they are probably part of the editorial board of goods journals, to which you should submit your paper.

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    $\begingroup$ Why downvotes? While this advice may sound cynical, it reflects the true state of affairs. Tastes of the editors and their opinions on what is or isn't great mathematics play a major role in what papers are accepted in top journals. There is nothing wrong with that in my opinion as long as there is rotation among editors. $\endgroup$ Nov 6, 2013 at 22:55
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    $\begingroup$ Singular they is now correct english: washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/08/… $\endgroup$
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I seem to remember this being discussed not too long ago on a certain blog not a long way from here ... but then maybe your question is a little more specific than that one was.

To the extent that this information is subjective, I don't think you'll get a good answer. To make it more objective, you need some way of classifying "this sort of article". One simple way is by subject, specifically MSC. Then one can do it by looking at MathSciNet and comparing, say, the last 100 articles published in a given journal. With a little bit of data munging (technical term), you can figure out which journals publish in which areas.

Unfortunately, if you read the AMS copyright, you can't distribute this information. In fact, you're not even allowed to keep it on your own computer for very long so you have to redo it every time.

I've got some scripts for automating this stuff here on my website (I hope that putting links to ones own website isn't considered Bad Form here!)

But maybe you have a different classification scheme in mind - do you?

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    $\begingroup$ I meant for "this sort of articles" to be neutral to classification schemes, as I wasn't sure which one might be relevant. Knowing the association between journals and subject areas sounds extremely useful, however, and I'll certainly follow up on your scripts. Another "scheme" I had in mind was things like "breaking news", "papers that 'finish' a field or wider problem", "extremely well written exposition", etc. $\endgroup$ Oct 2, 2009 at 17:30
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    $\begingroup$ Those would be great to know. I don't know if journals conciously select by the types that you list (any journal editors here?). The problem would be finding and collating this information. Partly, the more useful the information then the more likely it is to be subjective, in which case it's going to be harder to get hold of. I suppose one could slurp through the reviews on MathSciNet looking for key words such as "well written" or "exposition" but it's hard to think of a scheme that would be guaranteed to work. $\endgroup$ Oct 3, 2009 at 18:49
  • $\begingroup$ @AndrewStacey: That link that you gave in your post is dead now, and it is not to be found on the Wayback Machine. Do you have a newer one? If not, then the best you could do is probably to remove the old one. $\endgroup$
    – Alex M.
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AustMS have a journal ranking system where different groups submit their recommendations for what levels certain journals should be ranked at. Here's the link for pure mathematics.

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    $\begingroup$ These rankings are now deprecated by the Australian Research Council, which at one point commissioned these rankings for a national research assessment exercise. In my department the peculiarities and inexplicable rankings are much discussed, because peoples' teaching is allocated based on the rankings... $\endgroup$
    – David Roberts
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The best journals are the ones that the best mathematicians publish in. But which mathematicians are the best? The ones that publish in the best journals.

Seriously, though, one could probably use some numerical methods to generate a ranking of journals or mathematicians from that. (That may be why this is tagged "eigenfactor".) And on a more local level, think of the "good mathematicians" in your area, and look at their publication lists.

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    $\begingroup$ I very strongly disagree with the 2nd and 3-d sentences. $\endgroup$ Feb 3, 2018 at 0:00
  • $\begingroup$ Would be a good start to "How to evaluate mathematical research without any mathematical knowledge". It is one major issue to keep the hierarchy (direction of universities, governments etc) convinced that mathematicians are the best-qualified to evaluate each other. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
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One way of finding which is the best journal is look at the number of citations the journal gets.

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    $\begingroup$ This can be a useful 1st rule of thumb but can definitely be misleading (for the same reason that impact factors are) $\endgroup$
    – Yemon Choi
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    $\begingroup$ Isn't impact factor essentially this, suitably renormalized? $\endgroup$ Apr 13, 2012 at 14:45
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    $\begingroup$ There are good ways to simultaneously decrease the quality of a good paper and increase its number of quotations (typically, prove a particular case rather than the general case, give concrete and irrelevant words for definitions, and other tricks you may already have thought of) $\endgroup$
    – YCor
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    $\begingroup$ The impact factor can be extremely misleading (at least in the sciences). See the infamous example of the journal ''Chaos, Solitons & Fractals''. $\endgroup$ Sep 2, 2021 at 18:30

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