User enzo - MathOverflowmost recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-25T21:07:47Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/user/25157http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/102384/showing-that-a-family-of-polynomials-has-positive-and-real-rootsShowing that a family of polynomials has positive and real roots.Enzo2012-07-16T19:56:50Z2012-08-01T03:43:10Z
<p>Hi everybody, for my research I am dealing with the following function: </p>
<p>$$\alpha_n(x):=\left.\frac{\partial^{2n+1}}{\partial z^{2n+1}}\frac{\sinh(z)}{\cosh(z)-1+x}\right|_{z=0},\quad n\in \mathbb{N},$$</p>
<p>It is possible to show that
$$\alpha_n(x)=\frac{P_n(x)}{x^{n+1}},$$ where $P_n(\cdot)$ is a polynomial of order $n$ in $x$, having integer coeffients.</p>
<p>To make few concrete examples
$$\alpha_0(x)=\frac{1}{x}$$
$$\alpha_1(x)=\frac{-3+x}{x^2}$$
$$\alpha_2(x)=\frac{30-15 x+x^2}{x^3}$$
$$\alpha_3(x)=\frac{-630+420 x-63 x^2+x^3}{x^4}$$
$$\alpha_4(x)=\frac{22680-18900 x+4410 x^2-255 x^3+x^4}{x^5}$$
and so on.</p>
<p>What I would need to show (and it is veryfied for all the special cases I was able to compute, like those above) is that all the roots of $P_n(x)$ (and therefore those of $\alpha_n(x)$) are real and strictly greater than 2. </p>
<p>An explicit albeit complicated expression for $\alpha_n(x)$ can be obtained, namely:</p>
<p><code>\begin{equation*}
\begin{array}{ll}
\alpha_n(x)=&x^{-n-1}\sum_{j=0}^{n} x^{n-j}\sum_{k=j+1}^{n} (2k)!\genfrac{\lbrace}{\rbrace}{0pt}{}{2n+1}{2k}\sum_{i=j}^{k}\left[ {i+1\choose j+1}\binom{2k}{2 i+1}-{i\choose j+1}\binom{2k}{2 i}\right](-2)^{j+1-2k}+\\
&x^{-n-1}\sum_{j=0}^{n} x^{n-j}\sum_{k=j}^{n}{(2k+1)!\genfrac{\lbrace}{\rbrace}{0pt}{}{2n+1}{2k+1}}\sum_{i=j}^{k} \left[ {i+1\choose j+1}\binom{2k+1}{2 i+1}-{i\choose j+1}\binom{2k+1}{2 i}\right](-2)^{j-2k},
\end{array}
\end{equation*}</code></p>
<p>where the number between the curly brakets are the Stirling number of the second kind; Moreover, </p>
<p>$$\alpha_n(2)=-\sum_{k=1}^{2n+1}{k!\genfrac{\lbrace}{\rbrace}{0pt}{}{2n+1}{k}}(-2)^{-k}\neq0.$$</p>
<p>If someone is interested, I can post more on how I got these expressions.
Thanks in advance to everybody that will try to help me.</p>
<p>Best Regards </p>
<p>Enzo</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/102384/showing-that-a-family-of-polynomials-has-positive-and-real-roots/102403#102403Comment by EnzoEnzo2012-07-17T06:51:43Z2012-07-17T06:51:43ZSorry the integral should be $$\int_{\rho}\frac{z+1}{(z^2+1+2z(x-1))(z-1)^k}dz$$http://mathoverflow.net/questions/102384/showing-that-a-family-of-polynomials-has-positive-and-real-roots/102403#102403Comment by EnzoEnzo2012-07-17T06:48:32Z2012-07-17T06:48:32ZHi John, that is how I got the explicit formula.
Since $$f(z,x)=\left.\frac{\sinh(z)}{\cosh(z)-1+x}=\frac{(y+1)(y-1)}{y^2+1+2y(x-1)}\right|_{y=e^z}$$
one can use the Faa di Bruno's formula
$$\alpha_n(x)=\sum_{k=1}^{2n+1}k!\genfrac{\lbrace}{\rbrace}{0pt}{}{2n+1}{k}\frac{1}{2\pi i}\int_\rho{z+1}{(z^2+1+2z(x-1))(z-1)^{k}}$$ where $\rho$ is a closed curve encircling $z=1$. Then the integral can be obtained by Cauchy Residue formula.http://mathoverflow.net/questions/102384/showing-that-a-family-of-polynomials-has-positive-and-real-roots/102404#102404Comment by EnzoEnzo2012-07-17T06:42:28Z2012-07-17T06:42:28ZHi again David. Nice suggestion! I will check the details, but it seems to be right.
Regards,
Enzo
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/102384/showing-that-a-family-of-polynomials-has-positive-and-real-rootsComment by EnzoEnzo2012-07-16T21:43:40Z2012-07-16T21:43:40ZHi David, thanks for the comment. I have noticed that as well, and it reminded me the proof that the Hermite polynomial have real roots. Unfortunately, the same procedure does not seems to work here, since we have that the derivative is taken in $z$ and the roots are in $x$.