Mathematical definition of running - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net 2013-05-19T14:52:45Z http://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/8257 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://mathoverflow.net/questions/8257/mathematical-definition-of-running Mathematical definition of running unknown (google) 2009-12-08T22:06:41Z 2009-12-09T13:59:08Z <p>This will be a tad hard to explain, so bear with me. Taking into account only the legs what would be an accurate definition of the position of the upper legs, lower legs and feet with respect to time? </p> <p>Let's say we have a person running on the spot (Not moving anywhere), from the reference point (Say the spot they're running on, or perhaps their waist) how can we define the position and angle of each of the upper legs, lower legs and feet with respect to time (let's say 0 to 1 for a single cycle of running)</p> <p>I'm sure there's plenty of documentation on the subject but I'm unable to get anything useful from google. </p> <p>The purpose is computer animation in an environment that doesn't support key-framing </p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/8257/mathematical-definition-of-running/8272#8272 Answer by Noah Snyder for Mathematical definition of running Noah Snyder 2009-12-08T23:34:06Z 2009-12-08T23:34:06Z <p>This is probably not directly relevant, but there's a <a href="http://www.math.toronto.edu/~drorbn/People/Eldar/thesis/default.htm" rel="nofollow">really delightful webpage</a> made by Dror Bar Natan's masters student Dori Eldar about linkages. There's a lot of stuff about the topology of linkages (if I remember correctly, any manifold can be realized as the configuration space of a linkage). The positions of the lower legs (two thighs, two shins, two feet, joined at hips, knees, and ankles) is some nice closed manifoled. You want to then look at some smaller space inside there (for example, there's a limit to how much each joint can move). Physics is going to give you some flow on this space (e.g. the affects of gravity) and there's a choice of movement away from that flow given by moving muscles. Looking now as a subset of space-time you see there's a manifold that's the configuration space of all possible gaits. And you then want to look at the "how fast do you actually move" function on that space and hope that there's a local maximum that looks like running...</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/8257/mathematical-definition-of-running/8347#8347 Answer by Jason Dyer for Mathematical definition of running Jason Dyer 2009-12-09T13:59:08Z 2009-12-09T13:59:08Z <p>For what you want you need to be looking at medical journals.</p> <p>I would recommend anything from the Journal of Biomechanics, for example <a href="http://www.jbiomech.com/article/S0021-9290%2805%2900540-3/abstract" rel="nofollow">this paper</a> on Procrustes Motion Analysis (PMA):</p> <blockquote> <p>Abstract: The ability to quantify and compare the movements of organisms is a central focus of many studies in biology, anthropology, biomechanics, and ergonomics. However, while the importance of functional motion analysis has long been acknowledged, quantitative methods for identifying differences in motion have not been widely developed. In this article, we present an approach to the functional analysis of motion and quantification of motion types. Our approach, Procrustes Motion Analysis (PMA) can be used to distinguish differences in cyclical, repeated, or goal-directed motions. PMA exploits the fact that any motion can be represented by an ordered sequence of postures exhibited throughout the course of a motion. Changes in posture from time step to time step form a trajectory through a multivariate data space, representing a specific motion. By evaluating the size, shape, and orientation of these motion trajectories, it is possible to examine variation in motion type within and among groups or even with respect to continuous variables. This represents a significant analytical advance over current approaches. Using simulated and digitized data representing cyclical, repeated and goal-directed motions, we show that PMA correctly identifies distinct motion tasks in these data sets.</p> </blockquote>