Is it consistent relative to ZF that $\frak c = \aleph_\omega$? - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-06-20T11:22:31Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/78627http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/78627/is-it-consistent-relative-to-zf-that-frak-c-aleph-omegaIs it consistent relative to ZF that $\frak c = \aleph_\omega$?Asaf Karagila2011-10-19T23:52:22Z2011-10-20T03:34:02Z
<p>In ZFC we know that the continuum cannot have cofinality $\omega$. </p>
<p>However, in the Feferman-Levy model we have that $\frak c=\aleph_1$, and that $\operatorname{cf}(\omega_1)=\omega$. In fact in the Feferman-Levy model, $\aleph_\omega^L=\aleph_1^V$. </p>
<p>Is it consistent with ZF that $\frak c=\aleph_\omega$? Does that mean that the only restriction in ZF on the cardinality of the continuum is $\aleph_0<\frak c$?</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/78627/is-it-consistent-relative-to-zf-that-frak-c-aleph-omega/78640#78640Answer by Joel David Hamkins for Is it consistent relative to ZF that $\frak c = \aleph_\omega$?Joel David Hamkins2011-10-20T03:28:45Z2011-10-20T03:34:02Z<p>The answer is no. The continuum cannot be $\aleph_\omega$, and this can be proved in ZF, that is, without using the axiom of choice. To see
this, suppose towards contradiction that $P(\omega)$ is equinumerous with
$\aleph_\omega$. Since $P(\omega)$ is equinumerous
with $P(\omega)^\omega$, and this does not require AC, it follows
that there is a bijection $f:\aleph_\omega\cong
(\aleph_\omega)^\omega$. Let $g(n)$ be the first ordinal
$\alpha\lt\aleph_\omega$ that is not among $f(\beta)(n)$
for any $\beta\lt\aleph_n$. Since there are fewer than
$\aleph_\omega$ many such $\beta$, it follows that there
are fewer than $\aleph_\omega$ many such $f(\beta)(n)$, and
so such an $\alpha$ exists. Thus, $g:\omega\to
\aleph_\omega$. But notice that for any particular
$\alpha\lt\aleph_\omega$, we have $\alpha\lt\aleph_n$ for
some $n$ and consequently $g(n)\neq f(\alpha)(n)$, and thus
$g\neq f(\alpha)$. Thus, $f$ was not surjective to
$(\aleph_\omega)^\omega$ after all, a contradiction.</p>
<p>This is just a standard proof of Konig's theorem (that
$\aleph_\omega^\omega\gt\aleph_\omega$), and the point is
that it doesn't use AC.</p>