Directional Distortion of a Surface - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net 2013-05-25T04:03:48Z http://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/73453 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://mathoverflow.net/questions/73453/directional-distortion-of-a-surface Directional Distortion of a Surface Denise 2011-08-23T00:56:27Z 2012-02-24T19:07:02Z <p>Hi everyone,</p> <p>I am facing a math road block.</p> <p>I have two surfaces (3D) described by two functions $f_1$ and $f_2$ (known). I would like to create some sort of directional distortion along the loading direction. See the image below. (Original, full-resolution, rotated version <a href="http://i51.tinypic.com/4g16kj.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a>.) <br /> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/MathOverflow/4g16kj.jpg" alt="directional distortion" /> <br /> <sub> [The upside-down handwritten text says <em>Distorted "forward"</em> and <em>Distorted "backward"</em>.&mdash;JOR] </sub> <br /></p> <p>It "protrudes" along the loading direction and becomes "flatter" in the opposite direction. Can that be done? I have the feeling that some kind of interpolation between the shapes of the original surfaces $f_1$ and $f_2$ can do the job, but the interpolation must be done directionally, i.e., it will depend on the loading.</p> <p>I am not sure how this distortion can be formulated mathematically, and I would love to have your suggestions. Many Thanks,</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/73453/directional-distortion-of-a-surface/73466#73466 Answer by Gerhard Paseman for Directional Distortion of a Surface Gerhard Paseman 2011-08-23T03:45:42Z 2012-02-24T19:05:40Z <p>Here is a model to think about. Tweak as needed. I am assuming for sake of my understanding that there is some symmetry about the $xy$ plane, namely there are surfaces $f_1$ and $f_2$ with $0 &lt; f_1 &lt; f_2$ at almost all points in the $xy$ plane (more formally, the numerical relation $0 &lt; f_1(x,y) &lt; f_2(x,y)$ holds for all $(x,y)$ in an open set in the $xy$ plane) and there are also surfaces $-f_1$ and $-f_2$ and what is desired is two surfaces $f_3$ and $f_4$ that satisfy among other conditions $f_1 &lt; f_3 &lt; f_2$ and $-f_1 &lt; f_4 &lt; 0$.</p> <p>Try a straw model where the volume between $f_1$ and $-f_1$ is made up of parallel straws packed together in the desired direction $u$. If you want volume preservation, push on the straws in the direction u; push so that neighboring straws move close to the same amount. Mathematically, this is reparameterizing the surfaces involved so that the $z$ axis is replaced by the $u$ axis, and then adding a distortion $d$ to the reoriented $f_1$ and $-f_1$. </p> <p>For an area preserving distortion, try something similar, except shrink or stretch the straws as needed. Instead of $d$ added to both reparameterized surfaces $f_1$ and $-f_1$, you will need to compute the difference in surface areas between $f_1$ and $d+f_1$, and borrow that difference from $-f_1$ somehow. As a start, if an area element gets increased by $b$%, find $c$ to shrink the area element on the other end of the straw so that the net change in the sum of the two areas is zero.</p> <p>Another model is the soap film model, where $f_1$ is like a soap film with a variety of pressures acting on it. However, this leads to minimal surfaces and/or odd metrics, and is way out of my comfort zone. Perhaps a differential geometer can tell you what an appropriate transformation would be for this kind of model.</p> <p>Gerhard "Ask Me About System Design" Paseman, 2011.08.22 </p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/73453/directional-distortion-of-a-surface/73515#73515 Answer by Jeremy for Directional Distortion of a Surface Jeremy 2011-08-23T17:49:28Z 2012-02-24T19:07:02Z <p>EDIT (David White): This is really a comment to Gerhard's answer, not an answer in and of itself.</p> <p>Thank you for your input Gerhard. A small clarification: what is desired is not two surfaces $f_3$ and $f_4$, but just one function that would undergo directional distortion and that would be some interpolation of $f_1$ and $f_2$ (to ensure tangentiality as $f_1$ grows closer to $f_2$).</p> <p>Regarding the straw model. Are you using some discrete description (particles)? Where each point would undergo a different displacement $u$? If so, we can generate a surface $f_3$ but we loose the closed-form formula for it, am I correct?</p> <p>Thanks again,</p>