Vitali Sets vs Bernstein Sets... - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-21T18:15:54Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/71575http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/71575/vitali-sets-vs-bernstein-setsVitali Sets vs Bernstein Sets...George Lazou2011-07-29T13:51:23Z2012-05-21T00:41:47Z
<p>AC is enough to guarantee the existence of both Bernstein Sets and Vitali Sets...</p>
<p>However is the existence of Vitali Sets strictly weaker than that of Bernstein Sets?</p>
<p>What about the other way round?</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/71575/vitali-sets-vs-bernstein-sets/97453#97453Answer by Liang Yu for Vitali Sets vs Bernstein Sets...Liang Yu2012-05-20T02:14:28Z2012-05-21T00:41:47Z<p>For your second definition of Vitali set, I have a weak partial answer. Namely the existence of a Bernstein set does not imply the existence of a $T$-Vitali set. The answer can be found in logic blog maintained by Andre Nies:<br>
<a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/370127/Blog/Blog2012.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/370127/Blog/Blog2012.pdf</a></p>
<p>Note that a Turing degree does not need to be an addition group.</p>
<p>I don't know whether the existence of a Vitali set implies the existence of a Bernstein set. But it is not difficult to see, under $ZF+DC$, that there is a Vitali set (if it exists) which contains a perfect subset.</p>
<p>For you first definition of Vitali set, I have no idea.</p>