Singularity at left endpoint for variational calculus problem - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-21T16:43:19Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/68664http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/68664/singularity-at-left-endpoint-for-variational-calculus-problemSingularity at left endpoint for variational calculus problemunknown (google)2011-06-23T21:47:54Z2011-12-02T23:24:26Z
<p>Hi all, first, I'd like to apologize if the term "singularity" is being misused. I have the following integral:</p>
<p>$\int _{0}^{\pi/2} \sqrt{ r \left( x \right) ^{2}
+ \left( {\frac {d}{dx}} r \left( x \right) \right) ^{2}} \left( \ln \left( {
\frac {\sin \left( x \right) }{1-\cos \left( x \right) }} \right) + 1 \right) {dx}$</p>
<p>Note that the integrand shoots to infinity as x approaches 0. It's not too hard to establish that the integral will nonetheless always converge, regardless of the choice of r. My question is: will an extremizer satisfy the Euler-Lagrange Equation on the interval (0,Pi/2], and how can I tell? Sorry if this is trivial, I do not know much about the calculus of variations.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/68664/singularity-at-left-endpoint-for-variational-calculus-problem/68702#68702Answer by Igor Khavkine for Singularity at left endpoint for variational calculus problemIgor Khavkine2011-06-24T07:19:27Z2011-06-24T07:19:27Z<p>The answer is yes, if the interval you mean is $(0,\pi/2)$. That is, in any case, the natural domain on which the Euler-Lagrange equation $EL(x)$ is expected to hold. The reason is that it reflects the property of the minimizer $r(x)$ that the variation of the above integral vanishes for arbitrary variations $r(x)+\delta r(x)$ with compact support in $(0,\pi/2)$: $$\int_0^{\pi/2} \delta r(x) EL(x)=0.$$ Pick a point $y\in(0,\pi/2)$ and a fixed open neighborhood $U$ of $y$ with compact closure in the same interval. Since the last equation is expected to hold for any such $U$ and $\delta r(x)$ with support $\overline{U}$, it follows that $EL(y)=0$ holds. The same argument shows that $EL(x)=0$ for all $x\in(0,\pi/2)$.</p>
<p>The natural domain for a differential equation to be satisfied is an open interval. Including a boundary of the interval essentially means the solution and sufficiently many of its derivatives extend continuously to that point.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/68664/singularity-at-left-endpoint-for-variational-calculus-problem/82523#82523Answer by unknown (google) for Singularity at left endpoint for variational calculus problemunknown (google)2011-12-02T23:11:59Z2011-12-02T23:24:26Z<p>This is strange. If $r$ is a $C^2$ extremal, and $F(x,r(x),r'(x))$ we'd have $F_r(x,r(x),r'(x)) - \frac{d}{dx} F_{r'}(x,r(x),r'(x)) = 0$ for $x \in (0,\pi/2)$, which then means $\int_{a}^{b} F_r(x,r(x),r'(x)) = F_{r'}(b,r(b),r'(b)) - F_{r'}(a,r(a),r'(a))$ for $0 < a < b < \pi/2$. The LHS is </p>
<p>$ \int_a^b \left( \ln \left( {\frac {\sin \left( x \right) }{1-\cos \left( x
\right) }} \right) + 1 \right) {\frac {r(x)}{\sqrt {{r(x)}^{2} + {r'(x)}^{2}}}}
$</p>
<p>which, provided $r(0)=1$, goes to a finite value as $a \rightarrow 0^+$. However, $ F_{r'}(a,r(a),r'(a)) = \left( \ln \left( {\frac {\sin \left( a \right) }{1-\cos \left( a
\right) }} \right) + 1 \right) {\frac {r'(a)}{\sqrt {{r(a)}^{2} + {r'(a)}^{2}}}}$
which goes to $\pm \infty$ as $a \rightarrow 0^+$ if $r'(0) \neq 0$. Thus we are left to conclude that $r'(0) = 0$. But 'experimental' data (via discretizations of the problem), show this isn't the case! Either what I just wrote is wrong, or something is seriously wrong!</p>