Publishing journals articles without transferring copyright. - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net 2013-05-19T05:44:31Z http://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/64982 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://mathoverflow.net/questions/64982/publishing-journals-articles-without-transferring-copyright Publishing journals articles without transferring copyright. John 2011-05-14T13:07:24Z 2011-05-16T04:23:42Z <p>I'm a grad student getting close to submitting my first journal article (which will be single-authored). My understanding is that it's standard practice for authors to transfer the copyright of their paper to the journal in which it is published. I want my article to be published in a journal, but I don't want to transfer the copyright -- I want the article to be in the public domain. How will editors to behave towards such a request? Also, when should I bring up the topic: when I submit the article, or after it's accepted and I'm asked to sign a copyright transfer?</p> <p>Some grants apparently have a stipulation that articles written as part of the grant research must be released into the public domain (e.g. grants funded by the US government). In this case, authors presumably sign a consent to publish, instead of a copyright transfer. Hence, there's at least some precedent for what I want to do, though I want my article in the public domain purely because of my personal views on the ethics of copyright.</p> <p>I couldn't find too much information about this topic by googling. Oleg Pikhurko has a page discussing <a href="http://www.math.cmu.edu/~pikhurko/Copyright.html" rel="nofollow">his attempt</a> to have his articles revert to the public domain after a period of years, as opposed to instantly. It didn't work out particularly well in his case.</p> <p>I'm not sure how much I'm willing to have my ethical ideals damage my career (e.g. by having publications delayed and/or being banned from submitting to journals).</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/64982/publishing-journals-articles-without-transferring-copyright/64983#64983 Answer by Zoran Škoda for Publishing journals articles without transferring copyright. Zoran Škoda 2011-05-14T13:21:17Z 2011-05-14T13:21:17Z <p>Most journals in math allow you to publish a version of the paper which was previously posted to the arxiv.org. They ask you often to take the copyright for the published version which just slightly differs from the arxiv version. So there is not much difference between having it public or having a slightly different version public. Some journals, on the other hand are free anyway and forever in their public versions, e.g. Theory and application of categories. If you choose a journal carefully you solve most of your concern. Some publishers are notorious of being nasty, expensive, proprietory, nonresponsive to author needs etc. You do not want to publish in expensive envelopes of crap, like Elsevier's <em>Chaos, solitons and fractals</em> used to be. </p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/64982/publishing-journals-articles-without-transferring-copyright/65012#65012 Answer by Sergei Ivanov for Publishing journals articles without transferring copyright. Sergei Ivanov 2011-05-14T21:10:28Z 2011-05-14T21:34:25Z <p>Not all journals request copyright transfer, check journals' websites for their sample copyright forms. It actually depends more on the publisher rather than on the journal. For example, I recently signed a copyright form for one of the journals published by Mathematical Sciences Publishers. All my obligations are: (1) I don't sue them for publishing my paper; (2) If I publish it elsewhere later, I must acknowledge the prior publication in their journal. I don't think it prevents me from placing the paper to public domain later, although I doubt this would be a good idea.</p> <p>Having said this, I'd like to note that journals are irrelevant to the issue of disseminating your work. Just place it on arXiv before you submit it to a journal. Journals refusing to publish arXiv'ed papers (are there any such journals in math?) can be safely ignored and deserve to be ignored. If you care about legal matters, arXiv has an option of publishing under a Creative Commons Attribution license, which is almost the same as public domain for all practical purposes.</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/64982/publishing-journals-articles-without-transferring-copyright/65016#65016 Answer by Ben Webster for Publishing journals articles without transferring copyright. Ben Webster 2011-05-14T22:53:11Z 2011-05-15T02:29:08Z <p>I'm surprised nobody has pointed this out, but you seem to be confused about the <a href="http://publicaccess.nih.gov/" rel="nofollow">NIH Public Access Policy</a>. It does not require that authors keep their copyright (journals would not have accepted such a policy, I'm sure), but that they make their article freely available on PubMed within 12 months of publication. There has been discussion of NSF having a similar policy (which would be great), but this would mean little change in the situation for mathematicians, as it would just be a requirement for people to put their work on the arXiv, which anyone with any sense does anyways. </p> <p>I honestly would be very curious what would happen if you tried to negotiate with the journal on the copyright issue, but I'd doubt you'd get far. (<strong>EDIT</strong>: Of course, as was noted above, some journals don't require authors to transfer their copyright, in which case things are fine.) At the end of the day, this just absolutely the wrong point on which to pressure a journal (and in my opinion, not a very important criterion when choosing what journal to publish in). They don't need your article; no offense, but I doubt replacing your article with the next one they would rejected is going to cause publishers any worry. Like Matthew, I think approaching the problem from this angle as a graduate student could only be cutting off your nose to spite your face; the opportunities for damaging your career completely outweigh any societal gain. I'll admit that the idea handing the copyright for a paper to a journal rankles a bit, but it certainly has yet to make the least difference in my life, and I don't anticipate a time when it would. Anyone who wants my papers can get from the arXiv, and they'll continue to, at least until Skynet becomes self-aware. </p> <p>The papers it's very annoying that publishers own the copyrights to are the old ones, since that actually does limit access to them, but that milk is already spilt.</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/64982/publishing-journals-articles-without-transferring-copyright/65093#65093 Answer by Kevin Walker for Publishing journals articles without transferring copyright. Kevin Walker 2011-05-16T00:01:32Z 2011-05-16T00:01:32Z <p>I certainly support the suggestions above to put your work on the arXiv and to publish in journals which allow you to retain the copyright. But if, for some reason, you find yourself publishing in a journal which insists on you signing a copyright release form, another option is to attach the following addendum to the form. (Sorry about the bad formatting.) Many people have been using this addendum for many years with many journals, and so far as I know no journal has ever objected. Note in particular the last clause, which allows you to maintain a (free) version of the article on your on web page.</p> <hr> <p>Date: [month, i.e. March] [day], [year]</p> <p>Title: [Fill in Title]</p> <p>Authors: [author1], [author2], [author3], [etc.]</p> <p><strong>Addendum to Consent to Publish/Copyright Agreement</strong></p> <p>The above-mentioned authors explicitly reserve the following rights:</p> <p>All proprietary rights other than copyright, such as patent rights;</p> <p>The right to use all or part of this article in future works of their own, such as lectures, reviews, textbooks, or reprint books;</p> <p>The right to make copies for the authors’ own teaching use;</p> <p>The right to use figures and tables in future publications, provided explicit acknowledgment is made of their initial appearance in this journal; and</p> <p>The right to post this article on the web, including in particular the personal web page of the authors and the web pages of their institutions/employers.</p> <p>[Your name] [Your title]</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/64982/publishing-journals-articles-without-transferring-copyright/65108#65108 Answer by Mike Shulman for Publishing journals articles without transferring copyright. Mike Shulman 2011-05-16T04:23:42Z 2011-05-16T04:23:42Z <p>I would <em>not</em> advise you to give up your ethical ideals. Frankly, I find it offensive that any publishers expect me to assign to them the copyright in an article that I have written.</p> <p>I think there are also some practical reasons to retain copyright, although they are not as pressing now that we can put our papers on the arXiv (which you should, in my opinion, always do). Kevin's addendum form mentions some of the important rights that some copyright transfer forms might take away from you: the right to create derivative works, use portions of the article in other work, and distribute the final version on the web.</p> <p>The best solution is, obviously, to publish in journals that always allow the author to retain copyright. Such journals often also have other desirable features, e.g. they make their published articles freely available online, rather than charging huge sums of money to university libraries for subscriptions. Furthermore, publishing good work in these "friendly" journals helps to build up their acceptance in the community, so that future authors will feel less pressure from career considerations to publish in "unfriendly" journals.</p> <p>Of course, right now it is still the case that some of the "best" journals (in terms of building up your publication record) are "unfriendly". How far you are willing to compromise between ethical ideals and career considerations is a personal decision. My personal choice so far has been to publish in any journal, but insist on retaining copyright. I've had more luck with this than Pikhurko did so far; out of two publications in "unfriendly" journals, in both cases the publisher was willing to allow me to retain copyright (although they have a bit of trouble actually putting the correct copyright notice on the article).</p>