Inner hom and geometric realization. - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-21T14:13:11Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/55807http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/55807/inner-hom-and-geometric-realizationInner hom and geometric realization.Alan Wilder2011-02-18T00:44:55Z2011-02-18T04:20:14Z
<p>I would like to prove the following fact, which I learned from a previous MO question.</p>
<p>Let <code>$S_\cdot,T_\cdot\in\mathbf{sSET}$</code> be simplicial sets, and assume that <code>$T_\cdot$</code> is Kan. Then there is a weak equivalence
<code>$$
|\underline{\mathbf{sSET}} (S_\cdot,T_\cdot)|\simeq \underline{\mathbf{TOP}} (|S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|)
$$</code></p>
<p>Here is what I have so far: By a Quillen adjunction,
<code>$$
\mathbf{TOP} (|\underline{\mathbf{sSET}} (S_\cdot,T_\cdot)|, \underline{\mathbf{TOP}} (|S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|)) \cong \mathbf{sSET}(\underline{\mathbf{sSET}} (S_\cdot,T_\cdot),\textrm{Sing}\ \underline{\mathbf{TOP}} (|S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|))
$$</code>
So we need to find a weak equivalence in the second set. Notice
<code>$$
\textrm{Sing}\ \underline{\mathbf{TOP}} (|S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|))_k \cong \mathbf{TOP}(\Delta^k\times |S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|)
$$</code>
And by the universal property of coends, there's a map (*)
<code>$$
|\Delta(k)|\rightarrow \Delta^k
$$</code><br>
($\Delta(k)$ is the simplicial set corepresenting $[k]\in\mathbb{\Delta}$), so we get a map to $\mathbf{TOP}(|\Delta(k) \times S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|)$, which is in turn in bijection with $\mathbf{sSET}(\Delta(k) \times S_\cdot,\textrm{Sing} |T_\cdot|)$, and that is the $k^{\textrm{th}}$ space of <code>$\underline{\mathbf{sSET}}(S_\cdot,\textrm{Sing}\ |T_\cdot|)$</code>. So unraveling, we need to find a weak equivalence
<code>$$
\underline{\mathbf{sSET}} (S_\cdot,T_\cdot) \rightarrow \underline{\mathbf{sSET}} (S_\cdot, \textrm{Sing} |T_\cdot|)
$$</code>
We do have the unit map $T_\cdot\rightarrow \textrm{Sing} |T_\cdot|$ of the adjunction in the target, and since all simplicial sets are cofibrant, the result would follow if
this unit map is a trivial fibration when <code>$T_\cdot$</code> is fibrant (by compatibility of inner-hom with the model structure in $\mathbf{sSET}$). Here's where I'm stuck; it seems like I'm missing a key ingredient to finish.</p>
<p>(*) also here I need to show that these set maps
<code>$$
\mathbf{TOP}(\Delta^k\times |S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|) \rightarrow \mathbf{TOP}(|\Delta(k) \times S_\cdot|,|T_\cdot|)
$$</code>
assemble to a weak equivalence of simplicial sets.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/55807/inner-hom-and-geometric-realization/55816#55816Answer by Charles Rezk for Inner hom and geometric realization.Charles Rezk2011-02-18T03:28:52Z2011-02-18T03:28:52Z<p>The unit map $T\to \mathrm{Sing}|T|$ is far from being a trivial fibration; it's actually injective. Did you mean to say it's a trivial <em>cofibration</em>?</p>
<p>It <em>is</em> a weak equivalence for any simplicial set $T$ (so the map is actually a trivial cofibration), and this would complete your proof. Unfortunately, this seems to take some hard work. Goerss & Jardine state this as Proposition 11.1 in chapter 1 of their book; their proof relies on much of the material in the previous 40 pages or so of the chapter. </p>
<p>The main idea in their proof (which goes back to Quillen) is to show that geometric realization $|-|:\mathbf{sSet}\to \mathbf{Top}$ preserves fibrations. It's clear from the definitions that $\mathrm{Sing}$ preserves fibrations, so therefore the composite functor $\mathrm{Sing}|-|$ takes Kan fibrations to Kan fibrations. In particular, it preserves the path-loop fibration, so you can reduce the problem of comparing homotopy groups $\pi_n(T,t)\to \pi_n(\mathrm{S}|T|,t)$ to the case $n=0$.</p>
<p>Showing that $|-|$ preserves fibrations involves a detour through the theory of minimal Kan fibrations, which is charming; but it would be nice if there was a more direct proof. I don't know one.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/55807/inner-hom-and-geometric-realization/55823#55823Answer by Peter May for Inner hom and geometric realization.Peter May2011-02-18T04:20:14Z2011-02-18T04:20:14Z<p>As another shameless advertisement for the forthcoming book
``More concise algebraic topology: localization, completion,
and model categories'', by Kate Ponto and myself, the book
will contain a proof of the model axioms for simplicial sets
that avoids the theory of minimal fibrations. It is due to
Pete Bousfield and myself, mainly Pete. In particular,
Corollary 17.5.13 in the book is the statement that the unit
map T --> S|T| is a weak equivalence for any simplicial set
T, and no result about the behavior of |-| on fibrations is
required in the proof. Actually though, this much is or at least
should be classical. It can be deduced directly from the easily
checked fact that the homotopy groups of a space X are isomorphic
to the homotopy groups of the Kan complex SX, Milnor's 1957 result
that the unit map is a weak equivalence when T is a Kan complex,
and the two triangle identities for the (|-|,S) adjunction.
The deduction does use that a map of Kan complexes induces an
isomorphism of homotopy groups iff it is a homotopy equivalence,
but that is also an old result. (It's in my 1967 book "Simplicial
objects in algebraic topology'', but I don't remember the original source).</p>