Galois Groups of a family of polynomials - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-06-19T15:12:52Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/44844http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/44844/galois-groups-of-a-family-of-polynomialsGalois Groups of a family of polynomialsVictor Miller2010-11-04T16:48:49Z2010-11-09T06:36:14Z
<p>I've stumbled across the family of polynomials
$ f_p(x) = x^{p-1} + 2 x^{p-2} + \cdots + (p-1) x + p $,
where $p$ is an odd prime. It's not too hard to show that $f_p(x)$ is irreducible over $\mathbb{Q}$ -- look at the Newton polygon of $f_p(x+1)$ over $\mathbb{Q}_p$ and you see that it factors as the product of an irreducible polynomial of degree $p-2$ and a linear. Since $f_p(x)$ has no real roots (look at the derivative of $f_p(x) (x-1)^2$) it must be irreducible over $\mathbb{Q}$. It's also not hard to see that the only primes dividing the discriminant are $2, p$ and primes dividing $p+1$. I would expect that the Galois group of a randomish polynomial would be the full symmetric group. Indeed, according to Magma this is true for $f_p(x)$ for $p=3,5, \dots, 61$ with the exception of $p=7,17$. So my question is -- are these the only exceptions?</p>
<p>Added later: I've had Magma find the Galois group for primes through 101 and it found another exception: $p=97$. So my initial guess was wrong.</p>
<p>Another addition: If one looks at odd $p$ (not just prime) for $p < 100$ there is another exception, 49. Also 241 is <strike> not </strike> an exception (misread magma's output).</p>
<p>The ideas in the following two papers may be of help:</p>
<p>"On the Galois Groups of the exponential Taylor polynomials" by Robert Coleman, in L'Enseignement Mathematique, v 33 (1987) pp 183-189</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>"On the Galois Group of generalized Laguerre polynomials" by Farshid Hajir, J. Th´eor. Nombres Bordeaux 17 (2005), no. 2, 517–525 (also available on the author's web page).</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/44844/galois-groups-of-a-family-of-polynomials/44874#44874Answer by David Speyer for Galois Groups of a family of polynomialsDavid Speyer2010-11-04T20:36:41Z2010-11-05T00:59:38Z<p>The discriminant of this polynomial is $(-1)^{\binom{p}{2}} 2 p^{p-3} (p+1)^{p-2}$. Thus, whenever $p$ is of the form $2k^2-1$ with $k$ odd, the discriminant will be a perfect square and the Galois group will be a subgroup of the alternating group. That explains all the counterexamples we have found. We now verify that this is the discriminant. </p>
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<p>I'm finding signs difficult tonight, so I'll only get my formulas right up to a sign.</p>
<p>We start with the following observation. Let $f$ be a polynomial of degree $n$. Then <code>$$\mathrm{Disc} ( f(x) (x-1)) = f(1)^2 \mathrm{Disc} (f(x)) \quad (*)$$</code>
To see this, let $r_1$, $r_2$, ..., $r_n$ be the roots of the polynomial $f$ and remember that $\mathrm{Disc}(f) = \prod_{i < j} (r_i-r_j)^2.$</p>
<p>Now, recall the identity
<code>$$\mathrm{Disc}(x^{n+1}-ax+b) = \left( (n+1)^{n+1} b^n - n^n a^{n+1} \right).$$</code>
It is easy to check that the right hand side vanishes if and only if $x^{n+1}-ax+b$ has a root in common with its derivative $(n+1)x^n-a$, so the two sides agree up to a constant. Checking the constant is left as an exercise.</p>
<p>Plugging in $a=b+1$, we get
<code>$$\mathrm{Disc}(x^{n+1}-(b+1)x+b) = \left( (n+1)^{n+1} b^n - n^n (b+1)^{n+1} \right).$$</code>
Applying $(*)$ to the identity $x^{n+1}-(b+1)x+b = (x-1)(x^n+x^{n-1}+\cdots+x^2+x-b)$, we get
<code>$$\mathrm{Disc}(x^n+x^{n-1}+\cdots+x^2+x-b) = \frac{ (n+1)^{n+1} b^n - n^n (b+1)^{n+1} }{(n-b)^2}.$$</code></p>
<p>Taking the limit as $b \to n$, and using l'Hospital twice, we get
<code>$$\mathrm{Disc}(x^n+x^{n-1}+\cdots+x^2+x-n) =$$</code>
<code>$$ (-1)^{\binom{n+1}{2}} \frac{ (n+1)^{n+1} n (n-1) n^{n-2} - n^n (n+1) n (n+1)^{n-1} }{2}$$</code>
<code>$$= \frac{ (n+1)^n n^{n-1} \left( (n+1)(n-1) - n^2 \right) }{2} = \frac{ (n+1)^n n^{n-1} }{2}$$</code></p>
<p>Now, applying $(*)$ once more, we get
<code>$$\mathrm{Disc}(x^{n-1} + 2 x^{n-2} + \cdots + (n-1) x + n )$$</code>
<code>$$ \frac{ (n+1)^n n^{n-1} }{2} \ \left( \frac{n(n+1)}{2} \right)^{-2} = 2 (n+1)^{n-2} n^{n-3}.$$</code></p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/44844/galois-groups-of-a-family-of-polynomials/44887#44887Answer by Dror Speiser for Galois Groups of a family of polynomialsDror Speiser2010-11-04T22:42:44Z2010-11-04T22:42:44Z<p>The following proves David's statement on the discriminant.</p>
<p>$f_n(x) := x^{n-1}\ +\ 2x^{n-2}\ +\ ...\ +\ n$</p>
<p>$f_n(x) = x\frac{x^n-1}{(x-1)^2}-\frac{n}{x-1}$</p>
<p>Say $f_n(\alpha)=0$,</p>
<p>$f'_n(x) = \frac{x^n-1}{(x-1)^2} + x\frac{nx^{n-1}(x-1)^2-2(x-1)(x^n-1)}{(x-1)^4}+\frac{n}{(x-1)^2}$</p>
<p>$f'_n(\alpha) = \frac{n}{\alpha(\alpha-1)}+(n(\frac{n}{\alpha(\alpha-1)}+\frac{1}{(\alpha-1)^2})-\frac{2\alpha}{\alpha-1}\frac{n}{\alpha(\alpha-1)})+\frac{n}{(\alpha-1)^2}$</p>
<p>$=\frac{n}{\alpha(\alpha-1)^2}((\alpha-1)+(n(\alpha-1)+\alpha)-2\alpha+\alpha)$</p>
<p>$=\frac{n(n+1)(\alpha-1)}{\alpha(\alpha-1)^2}=\frac{n(n+1)}{\alpha(\alpha-1)}$</p>
<p>$\Delta_{f_n} = (-1)^{\frac{(n-1)(n-2)}{2}} \text{Nm}(f'_n(\alpha)) = (-1)^{\frac{(n-1)(n-2)}{2}}\frac{(n(n+1))^{n-1}}{nf(1)} = (-1)^{\frac{(n-1)(n-2)}{2}}2n^{n-3}(n+1)^{n-2}$</p>
<p>This shows that whenever $n+1$ is twice an odd square the discriminant is a square.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/44844/galois-groups-of-a-family-of-polynomials/45412#45412Answer by Lavender Honey for Galois Groups of a family of polynomialsLavender Honey2010-11-09T06:36:14Z2010-11-09T06:36:14Z<p>Let $\alpha$ be a root of a polynomial
$f(x) \in \mathbf{Q}[x]$ of degree $n$, let $K = \mathbf{Q}(\alpha)$,
$L$ be the Galois closure of $K$, and
$G = \mathrm{Gal}(L/\mathbf{Q}) \subset S_n$.
How does one prove that a permutation group contains $A_n$?
Following Jordan, the usual method is to show that it
is sufficiently highly transitive. Also following Jordan,
to do this it suffices to construct subgroups of $G$ which
act faithfully and transitively on $n-k$ points and trivially
on the other $k$ points (for $k$ large, $\ge 6$ using CFSG), and
to show that $G$ is primitive. (The standard method for doing this is
to find $l$-cycles for a prime $l$.)
In the context of a Galois group, the most obvious place
to look for "elements" is to consider the decomposition
groups $D$ at places of $\mathbf{Q}$.
If $l$ is unramified in $K$, this corresponds to looking
at a Frobenius element (conjugacy class). In practice
(as far as a computation goes) this is quite useful,
but theoretically it is not so great unless there is a
prime $l$ for which the factorization is particularly clean.
This leaves the places which ramify in $L$.
For example, if $v = \infty$, one is considering
the action of complex conjugation; if there are exactly
two complex roots then $c$ is a $2$-cycle, and from Jordan's
theorem (easy in this case) we see that if $G$ is primitive
then $G$ is $S_n$. </p>
<p>The proposed method (following Coleman et. al.) for proving that
$G$ contains $A_n$ is somewhat misguided, I think. The
key point about the polynomial
$\sum_{k=0}^{n} x^k/k!$ is that the corresponding field is ramified at many primes,
and the decomposition groups at these primes give the
requisite elements. Conversely, the polynomial considered in this
problem corresponds to a field with somewhat limited ramification
- as has been noted, the only primes which ramify divide
$p(p+1)$.</p>
<p>It can be hard to compute Galois groups of random families of polynomials in general. I do not know if this is true in the present case, but given the lack of motivation I won't spend any more time thinking about it than the last hour or two, and instead give some partial results. However, the methods
given here may well apply more generally.
Let $n = p - 1$.</p>
<p>CLAIM: Suppose that $p+1$ is exactly divisible by a prime $l > 3$.
Then $G$ contains $A_{n}$. (This applies to a set $p$
of relative density one inside the primes.)</p>
<p>STEP I: Factorization of $p$; $G$ is primitive.
Let $f(x) = x^{p-1} + 2 x^{p-2} + \ldots + p$.
Note that
$$(x-1)^2 f(x) = x(x^{p} - 1) - p(x-1) = x^{p+1} - 1 - (p+1)(x-1).$$
We deduce that
$f(x) \equiv x(x-1)^{p-2} \mod p$, and that
$$p = \mathfrak{p} \mathfrak{q}^{p-2}$$
for primes $\mathfrak{p}$ and $\mathfrak{q}$ in
the ring of integers $O_K$ of $K$ both of norm $p$.
(To show this one needs to check that $[O_K:\mathbf{Z}[\alpha]]$
is co-prime to $p$ - one can do this by considering the Newton
Polygon of $f(x+1)$.)
Let $D \subset G$ be a decomposition
group at $p$. This corresponds
to choosing a simultaneous embedding of the roots
of $f(x)$ into an algebraic closure of the $p$-adic numbers.
We see that we may write
$f(x) = a(x) b(x)$ as polynomials over the $p$-adic numbers (which
I can't latex at this point for some reason),
where $a(x) \equiv x \mod p$
has degree one and $b(x) \equiv (x-1)^{p-2}$ is
irreducible of degree $p-2$ and
corresponds to a totally ramified extension.
Clearly $D$ acts transitively on the $p-2 = n-1$ roots of $b(x)$ and fixes
the roots of $a(x)$. Since $D \subset G \cap S_{n-1}$, we
see that $G \cap S_{n-1}$ is transitive in $S_{n-1}$ and
so $G$ is $2$-transitive (and hence primitive).</p>
<p>Step II: Factorization of $l$:
Let $l$ be a prime dividing $p+1$. We
assume that $l \ge 5$ and $l$ exactly divides $p+1$.
We see that
$$f(x) \equiv (x-1)^{l-2} \prod_{i=1}^{k-1} (x-\zeta^i)^{l}$$
where $\zeta$ is a $k$th root of unity and $kl=p+1$.
This suggests that:
$$l = \mathfrak{p}^{l-2} \prod_{i=1}^{k} \mathfrak{q}^l.$$
This also follows from a Newton polygon argument applied
to $f(x - \zeta^i)$. (Warning, this uses that $l$ exactly divides $p+1$.)</p>
<p>Step III: Some basic facts about local extensions:</p>
<p>Lemma 1. Suppose the ramification degree of $E/\mathbb{Q}_l$
is $l^m$. Then the ramification degree of the Galois
closure of $E$ is only divisible by primes dividing $l(l^m-1)$.
Proof. Kummer Theory.</p>
<p>Lemma 2. Suppose that $h(x) \in \mathbf{Q}_l[x]$
is an irreducible polynomial of degree $k$ with $(k,l) = 1$,
such that the
corresponding field $E/\mathbf{Q}_l$ is totally ramified.
If $F$ is the splitting field of $h(x)$, then
$\mathrm{Gal}(F/\mathbf{Q}_l) \subset S_k$ contains a $k$-cycle.
Proof: From a classification of tamely ramified extensions, there
exists an unramified extension $A$ such that $[EA:A] = [E:\mathbf{Q}_l]$
and $EA/A$ is cyclic and Galois. It follows that
$\mathrm{Gal}(EA/A)$ acts transitively and faithfully on the roots
of $h(x)$, and is thus generated by a $k$-cycle.</p>
<p>Step IV: $G$ contains an $l-2$-cycle.
Consider the decomposition group $D$ at $l$.
The orbits of $D$ correspond to the factorization of $l$ in $O_K$.
On the factors corresponding to primes of the form
$\mathfrak{q}^p_i$, the image of $D$ factors through a group
whose inertia has degree divisible only by primes dividing
$l(l-1)$, by Lemma 1. On the other hand, on
the factor corresponding to $\mathfrak{p}^{l-2}$, the image of
inertia contains an $l-2$ cycle, by Lemma 2.
Since $(l(l-1),l-2) = 1$, we see
that $D \subset G$ contains an $l-2$ cycle.</p>
<p>Step V: Jordan's Theorem.
Since $G$ is primitive, and $G$ contains a subgroup
that acts transitively and faithfully on $l-2$ points
(and trivially on all other points), we deduce
(from the standard proof of Jordan's theorem)
that $G$ is $n-(l-2)+1 = n+3-l$ transitive. This is at least $6$
(since $n+2$ is at least $2l$)
and so $G$ contains $A_n$ (by CFSG).</p>
<p>STEP VI: (for you, dear reader)
Find the analogous argument when $p+1$ is exactly divisible
by $l^k$ for some $k \ge 2$ --- try to construct a cycle
of degree $l^k - 2$, although be careful as it will no
longer be the case (as it was above) that
$[O_K:\mathbf{Z}[\alpha]]$ was co-prime to $l$.
This still leaves $p-1$ either a power of $2$ or a power
of $2$ times $3$, which might be annoying --- one would
have to think hard about the structure of the decomposition group at $2$ in those cases.</p>