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Total energy of the Universe
Cosmonut
2010-09-14T07:55:08Z
2010-09-14T16:07:58Z
<p>In popular science books and articles, I keep running into the claim that the total energy of the Universe is zero, "because the positive energy of matter is cancelled out by the negative energy of the gravitational field".</p>
<p>But I can't find anything concrete to substantiate this claim.
As a first check, I did a calculation to compute the gravitational potential energy of a sphere of uniform density of radius R using Newton's Laws and threw in E=mc^2 for energy of the sphere, and it was by no means obvious that the answer is zero !</p>
<p>So, my questions:</p>
<p>1) What is the basis for the claim - does one require General Relativity, or can one get it from Newtonian gravity ?</p>
<p>2) What conditions do you require in the model, in order for this to work ?</p>
<p>3) Could someone please refer me to a good paper about this ?</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/38659/total-energy-of-the-universe/38673#38673
Answer by José Figueroa-O'Farrill for Total energy of the Universe
José Figueroa-O'Farrill
2010-09-14T11:39:00Z
2010-09-14T11:39:00Z
<p>In the context of general relativity, the universe is described as a lorentzian spacetime subject to a coupled system of PDEs konwn as the Einstein field equations. These relate the curvature of the spacetime to a tensor field depending on the matter distribution. More precisely, the Einstein field equations say that in some units the Einstein tensor of the spacetime equals the energy-momentum tensor of the matter distribution. The claim you have come across is probably just a paraphrase of the Einstein field equations.</p>
<p>The truth lies elsewhere, as usual. In a gravitational theory energy is tricky to define. The reason is that it is not a function, but simply a component of a tensor and as such it does not have an invariant meaning and depends on a choice of coordinates.</p>
<p>The way relativists get around this problem (in some cases) is the so-called ADM energy. Essentially for spacetimes with "nice" asymptotics, by which one means spacetimes which are asymptotically flat, or more generally asymptotically to a spacetime of constant sectional curvature, one can define a notion of energy (often called mass) by subtracting off the energy of the asymptotic geometry.</p>
<p>The wikipedia article on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_general_relativity" rel="nofollow"><em>mass in general relativity</em></a> goes into more detail and has some links.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/38659/total-energy-of-the-universe/38690#38690
Answer by Dick Palais for Total energy of the Universe
Dick Palais
2010-09-14T15:02:42Z
2010-09-14T15:02:42Z
<p>In fact, two very well-known mathematicians, Schoen and Yau, in a much quoted paper, proved the long standing conjecture that the ADM mass is always POSITIVE (except for flat space). Here is the reference and abstract:</p>
<p>Commun. math. Phys. 65, 45--76 (1979)<br>
On the Proof of the Positive Mass Conjecture in General Relativity<br>
Richard Schoen and Shing-Tung Yau<br>
Abstract. Let M be a space-time whose local mass density is non-negative
everywhere. Then we prove that the total mass of M as viewed from spatial
infinity (the ADM mass) must be positive unless M is the fiat Minkowski
space-time. (So far we are making the reasonable assumption of the existence of
a maximal spacelike hypersurface. We will treat this topic separately.) We can
generalize our result to admit wormholes in the initial-data set. In fact, we
show that the total mass associated with each asymptotic regime is non-
negative with equality only if the space-time :is fiat. </p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/38659/total-energy-of-the-universe/38704#38704
Answer by Matt Reece for Total energy of the Universe
Matt Reece
2010-09-14T16:07:58Z
2010-09-14T16:07:58Z
<p>When people claim that total energy is zero in a gravitational theory, they usually mean something kind of trivial. In an ordinary field theory, we can define the stress-energy tensor by varying the Lagrangian with respect to the metric. But in a gravitational theory, the metric is a dynamical field, so this variation just gives an equation of motion for the metric that should be zero on a classical solution.</p>
<p>What I've just said sounds fairly classical; the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler-DeWitt_equation" rel="nofollow">Wheeler-DeWitt equation</a> is a version of this idea in the quantum context.</p>
<p>At low energies, where gravity is weak, you can of course just talk about the energy of a configuration of matter, independent of gravity, but this will not be conserved in general relativity. (A cosmological constant is a standard example where you can see that it's hard to make sense of energy conservation in the presence of gravity.)</p>
<p>As the others have said, the ADM energy is sometimes a more useful definition of energy in GR.</p>