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Is a topology determined by its convergent sequences?

2010-08-22T15:59:47Z

Just a basic point-set topology question: clearly we can detect differences in topologies using convergent sequences, but is there an example of two distinct topologies on the same set which have the same convergent sequences?

Answer by Mariano Suárez-Alvarez for Is a topology determined by its convergent sequences?

2010-08-22T16:06:46Z

The cocountable topology on an uncountable set is undistinguishable from the discrete topology if you can only use sequences.

Answer by Pete L. Clark for Is a topology determined by its convergent sequences?

2010-08-22T16:19:19Z

In a metric (or metrizable) space, the topology is entirely determined by convergence of sequences. This does not hold in an arbitrary topological space, and Mariano has given the canonical counterexample. This is the beginning of more penetrating theories of convergence given by nets and/or filters. For information on this, see e.g.

http://math.uga.edu/~pete/convergence.pdf

In particular, Section 2 is devoted to the topic of sequences in topological spaces and gives some information on when sequences are "topologically sufficient".

In particular a topology is determined by specifying which nets converge to which points. This came up as a previous MO question. It is not covered in the notes above, but is well treated in Kelley's General Topology.

Answer by Ady for Is a topology determined by its convergent sequences?

2010-08-22T20:08:34Z

Just another example. Consider the Banach space $\ell^{1}\left(\Gamma\right)$ , $\Gamma$ being an infinite set. Then the weak topology and the norm topology have the same convergent sequences (Schur' Theorem), while they are clearly distinct.

Answer by David Spivak for Is a topology determined by its convergent sequences?

2010-08-22T21:09:32Z

There is a category of "sequential spaces" in which objects are spaces defined by their convergent sequences and morphisms are those maps which send convergent sequences to convergent sequences.

As stated above, all metric spaces are sequential spaces, but so are all manifolds, all finite topological spaces, and all CW-complexes.

To build this category, one actually just needs to look at the category of right $M$-sets for a certain monoid $M$. Consider first the "convergent sequence space" $S:=${$\frac{1}{n}|n\in{\mathbb N}\cup${$\infty$}}$\subset {\mathbb R}$. In other words $S$ is a countable set of points converging to 0, and including $0$. Let $M$ be the monoid of continuous maps $S\to S$ with composition. Then an $M$-set is a "set of convergent sequences" closed under taking subsequences.

The category of $M$-sets is a topos, so it has limits, colimits, function spaces, etc. And every $M$-set has a topological realization which is a sequential space.