How should we define "locally small"? - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-25T03:21:41Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/3409http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/3409/how-should-we-define-locally-smallHow should we define "locally small"?Reid Barton2009-10-30T05:59:57Z2009-10-30T19:09:46Z
<p>Let U be a Grothendieck universe, and U<sup>+</sup> its successor universe (assume Grothendieck's universe axiom).</p>
<p>Everybody agrees that a U-small category is a category whose sets of objects and morphisms are both elements of U. For the "next larger size" of categories which are not necessarily even locally small, call them just U-categories, there are two possible definitions:</p>
<ul>
<li>a category whose set of objects and Hom-sets are all subsets of U;</li>
<li>a category whose set of objects and Hom-sets are all elements of U<sup>+</sup> (U<sup>+</sup>-small categories).</li>
</ul>
<p>I quite prefer the second notion, so that the category of U-categories is cartesian closed and we can form localizations. This is the usage of Dwyer-Hirschhorn-Kan-Smith, "Homotopy Limit Functors on Model Categories and Homotopical Categories". I think the first more closely corresponds to non-Grothendieck universe-based treatments of category theory using sets and classes, but I might be wrong about that.</p>
<p>For U-locally small categories there are again two possible definitions:</p>
<ul>
<li>a category whose set of objects is a subset of U and whose Hom-sets are elements of U,</li>
<li>a category whose set of objects is an element of U<sup>+</sup> and whose Hom-sets are elements of U.</li>
</ul>
<p>I don't see a strong reason to prefer one over the other, except that the second is more parallel with my preference for U-categories. DHKS uses the first. As an example of the difference between them, if I have a U-locally small category C, I can form the category (poset) of full subcategories of C; this is U-locally small under the second definition, but not the first. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Or are there no theorems I would care about that are affected by this difference? Does anyone have an opinion about these two definitions?</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/3409/how-should-we-define-locally-small/3464#3464Answer by Mike Shulman for How should we define "locally small"?Mike Shulman2009-10-30T18:41:08Z2009-10-30T18:41:08Z<p>You are correct that the first notion of U-category corresponds more
closely to non-Grothendieck-universe-based treatments, e.g. using NBG
or MK set-class theory. To be precise, if U is a universe, defining
"set" to mean "element of U" and "class" to mean "subset of U" gives a
model of MK set-class theory (and hence also NBG, which is weaker than
MK). A comparison of the relationships between different set-theoretic
treatments of large categories can be found in my expository paper
"<a href="http://www.arxiv.org/abs/0810.1279" rel="nofollow">Set theory for category theory</a>."</p>
<p>Here is an example of one theorem that can (maybe) tell the difference
between the two notions of U-locally-small categories. Let C be a
U-category whose hom-sets are in U (i.e. a "U-locally-small category"
by your second definition). Then C has a Yoneda embedding C →
[Cº,Set] where Set is the U-category of U-small sets. Note that
[Cº,Set] is only a U-category by your second definition (i.e. a
U⁺-small category). We say that C is <strong>lex-total</strong> if this Yoneda
embedding has a left adjoint which preserves finite limits. It is a
theorem of Freyd, which can be found in Ross Street's paper "Notions
of topos," that if C is lex-total <em>and</em> also U-locally-small according
to your <em>first</em> definition (its set of objects is a subset of U), then C
is a Grothendieck topos (i.e. the category of U-small sheaves on some
U-small site). The converse is not hard to prove, so this gives a
characterization of Grothendieck toposes. As far as I know, it is
unknown whether there can be lex-total U-categories with very large
object sets that are not Grothendieck toposes.</p>
<p>I would personally be inclined to use your second definition of
"U-locally small," because as you say it matches your preferred
definition of large category relative to U (which I would prefer to
just call a "U⁺-small category", since its definition makes no reference
to U), and also because the term "U-locally small" sounds as if it
only imposes a smallness condition locally. Street uses "moderate"
for a category with at most a U-small set of isomorphism classes of
objects, so if one wants to state a theorem (such as the above) about
U-locally-small categories according to your first definition, one can
instead say "U-locally-small and U-moderate."</p>