Uppercase Point Labels in High-School Diagrams: from Euclid? - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-21T11:16:38Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/28758http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/28758/uppercase-point-labels-in-high-school-diagrams-from-euclidUppercase Point Labels in High-School Diagrams: from Euclid?Joseph O'Rourke2010-06-19T16:15:46Z2013-04-06T00:46:44Z
<p>I wonder if the convention of labeling points in geometric
diagrams with uppercase symbols ultimately derives from
Greek mathematics, which was originally written in
"majuscule" (uppercase) Greek script (in contrast to the "minuscule"
script that was introduced much later (9th century?)).
Certainly Euclid and Archimedes used only uppercase,
and all of Descartes diagrams in <em>La Geometrie</em> (1637)
follow the same convention.</p>
<p>It seems that middle- and high-school textbooks continue
to use uppercase labels (is this only in the U.S.?),
but college texts do not follow
this as rigidly. This was brought home to me when I wrote
a chapter for high-school teachers and the editors changed
all my lowercase vertex labels to uppercase.
I much prefer lowercase for point labels, although
I do not quite know why I have this preference.
(Maybe because uppercase seems like SHOUTING?)
But when writing for an audience accustomed to
a particular convention, it seems prudent to follow that convention.</p>
<p>My questions are:
(1) Is the Greek majuscule script the origin of the uppercase
diagram-labeling convention?
(2) In so far as I am correct that the uppercase convention
is followed up to high school but dissolves at more advanced
levels, why does it persist to one level but dissolve beyond?</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/28758/uppercase-point-labels-in-high-school-diagrams-from-euclid/28770#28770Answer by TonyK for Uppercase Point Labels in High-School Diagrams: from Euclid?TonyK2010-06-19T18:06:00Z2010-06-19T18:06:00Z<p>If you don't have italic or bold typefaces available -- for instance, if you are writing by hand, in Greek -- then you really have to use uppercase for diagram labels, to make the text easier to follow.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/28758/uppercase-point-labels-in-high-school-diagrams-from-euclid/28855#28855Answer by Victor Protsak for Uppercase Point Labels in High-School Diagrams: from Euclid?Victor Protsak2010-06-20T15:35:26Z2010-06-20T15:35:26Z<p>I don't want to speculate on the historical origins, but I am surprised by your point (2): as far as I am aware, the use of upper case latin characters for points is completely standard in geometry regardless of the sophistication level in English language books. I've just had a quick look at Coxeter's <em>Introduction to Geometry</em> and Coxeter and Greitzer, and that's certainly their convention. I am less certain of how international this convention is: for example, all Russian texts that I can remember follow it, but, for example, Marcel Berger's geometry doesn't: it may please you that his points are set in lower case; however, he denotes lines and, more generally, sets by $A,B, H,K$ (sorry for shouting). At the same time, at least the English edition of Michele Audin's <em>Geometry</em> uses upper case characters for points. This contradicts my informed guess that lower case use has French origins, unless the translation was adapted to conform to English language use. On the other hand, authors of college textbooks do not always follow the best practices.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/28758/uppercase-point-labels-in-high-school-diagrams-from-euclid/126652#126652Answer by Rhett Butler for Uppercase Point Labels in High-School Diagrams: from Euclid?Rhett Butler2013-04-05T17:39:52Z2013-04-05T18:50:16Z<p>The convention of labeling points in geometric diagrams with uppercase symbols derives (at least also) from Greek mathematics. I cannot judge about the question whether this is the "ultimate" reason. But if we look into Euclid's elements, we find many diagrams where all points and also all lengths (magnitudes) are labeled with Greek uppercase symbols. It is said that Euler introduced the convention to label points of triangles with uppecase Latin letters and sides with lower case Latin letters and angles with lower case Greek letters. Probably the middle- and high-school textbooks, as many other elements of mathematics, adhere to the custom invented by Euler. But when we have a closer look into his books, first of all his INTRODUCTIO IN ANALYSIN INFINITORUM, we find that he used also lower case symbols to label points. So we should drop the word "ultimately" from the original question.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/28758/uppercase-point-labels-in-high-school-diagrams-from-euclid/126655#126655Answer by Rodrigo A. Pérez for Uppercase Point Labels in High-School Diagrams: from Euclid?Rodrigo A. Pérez2013-04-05T19:02:47Z2013-04-05T19:48:30Z<p>From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>: "In classical Greek, as in classical Latin, only upper-case letters existed. The lower-case Greek letters were developed much later by medieval scribes to permit a faster, more convenient cursive writing style with the use of ink and quill."</p>
<p>On the other hand (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid%27s_Elements" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia again</a>) "the oldest surviving Latin translation of the Elements is a 12th century work by Adelard, which translates to Latin from the Arabic."</p>
<p>In other words, there is no clear connection between Euclid using uppercase (the only script he knew), and us using it too (what symbols did the old arab scholars use?). There is no point either in looking at "old" books like Coxeter's. The convention is surely older!</p>
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<p>I will hazard the guess that the convention is quite old, say 1700-1800, and that it started with some random edition of Euclid that became slightly more popular than others. Which one, I do not know, but it is improbable that it is the first English translation by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Billingsley#Translation_of_Euclid" rel="nofollow">Billingsley</a> (very famous, with 3D pop-out models of solids, but English was not the most influential language at the time), or Oliver Byrne's [color coded edition](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Byrne_(mathematician)#Byrne.27s_Euclid) (which is beautiful, but became well known only recently, AND does not use labels :). See also <a href="http://www.math.ubc.ca/~cass/Euclid/" rel="nofollow">this page</a>...</p>
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<p><b>BTW</b>, in Spanish points are also represented with capital letters.</p>