Stone Spaces, Locales, and Topoi for the (relative) beginner - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net 2013-05-22T01:40:17Z http://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/27181 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://mathoverflow.net/questions/27181/stone-spaces-locales-and-topoi-for-the-relative-beginner Stone Spaces, Locales, and Topoi for the (relative) beginner lambdafunctor 2010-06-05T18:20:06Z 2011-02-03T06:27:42Z <p>I am currently reading Vickers' text "topology via logic" and Peter Johnstone's "stone spaces", and I understand the material in both of these texts to pertain directly to constructions in elementary topos theory (by which I do not mean 'the theory of elementary topoi). However, these things do not seem to be mentioned explicitly in these texts, at least not to great extent. Where might I avail myself of material which really 'brings home' the notion of topoi as 'generalized spaces' in the context of stone spaces and locales as alluded to in Vickers and Johnstone? I understand that Borceaux's third volume in the 'handbook of categorical algebra' is probably a good place to start... </p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/27181/stone-spaces-locales-and-topoi-for-the-relative-beginner/27186#27186 Answer by Steven Gubkin for Stone Spaces, Locales, and Topoi for the (relative) beginner Steven Gubkin 2010-06-05T19:00:09Z 2010-06-05T19:00:09Z <p>I cannot praise MacLane and Moerdijk's book "Sheaves in geometry and logic" highly enough. </p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/27181/stone-spaces-locales-and-topoi-for-the-relative-beginner/27188#27188 Answer by Charles Matthews for Stone Spaces, Locales, and Topoi for the (relative) beginner Charles Matthews 2010-06-05T19:17:00Z 2010-06-05T19:17:00Z <p>The texts by Vickers and Johnstone are rather different, and certainly are different in intention. I was struck by a remark made to me by a leading computer scientist, to the effect that <em>Stone Spaces</em> was a "treatise on extensionality". Mostly mathematicians, apart from some logicians, don't have much use for extensionality as a concept, and when they find out what it is, that is in the "speaking prose all my life" sense of "is that all?" But it is potentially a useful concept for understanding Grothendieck's approach in the large: not just topos theory, but also the "Yoneda lemma" approach to points and having enough of them for geometry, and the derived category approach in which spectral sequences ("intensionality") have disappeared or at least been submerged into computational undergrowth.</p> <p>Naturally understanding topos theory depends on the "geometric morphism" concept. All preparatory works can do is make the consequences of this concept clearer in the more familiar context of topological spaces.</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/27181/stone-spaces-locales-and-topoi-for-the-relative-beginner/27191#27191 Answer by nickname for Stone Spaces, Locales, and Topoi for the (relative) beginner nickname 2010-06-05T19:59:34Z 2010-06-05T19:59:34Z <p>The book by Robert Goldblatt: "Topoi, the Categorial Analysis of Logic" (1984) is quite simple to follow and have the nicely consulted at this address: <a href="http://historical.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cul.math/docviewer?did=Gold010&amp;id=3" rel="nofollow">http://historical.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cul.math/docviewer?did=Gold010&amp;id=3</a> </p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/27181/stone-spaces-locales-and-topoi-for-the-relative-beginner/27193#27193 Answer by Buschi Sergio for Stone Spaces, Locales, and Topoi for the (relative) beginner Buschi Sergio 2010-06-05T20:39:43Z 2010-06-05T20:39:43Z <p>My first "Topos Theory" book was Johnstone (some title), was hard but page after page I assimilated this (I'm still alive more or less), but it was the only book in argument. </p> <p>For me opinion the Borceaux's third volume is very good</p> <p>I indicate these text in progressive difficulty and depth :</p> <p>S. Mac Lane, I. Moerdijk, Sheaves in Geometry and Logic. A First Introduction to. Topos (a large part (localic topos) about locales and topos.</p> <p>If you want Peter T. Johnstone (1977) Topos Theory Cap.7 (about a taste of spatial topos)</p> <p>Peter T. Johnstone (1977) Topos Theory Sketches of an Elephant: A Topos Theory Compendium 2 (Cap. C1)</p> <p>The last is the better for your request (but a bit heavy).</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/27181/stone-spaces-locales-and-topoi-for-the-relative-beginner/27214#27214 Answer by Mike Shulman for Stone Spaces, Locales, and Topoi for the (relative) beginner Mike Shulman 2010-06-06T01:04:45Z 2010-06-06T01:04:45Z <p>Many good books have already been mentioned; I like MacLane+Moerdijk as an introduction, and after that both books by Johnstone (in particular, Part C of the Elephant does a good job of connecting locale theory with topos theory). But I also wanted to mention Vickers' paper "Locales and Toposes as Spaces," which I think does a good job of connecting up the topology with the toposes and the logic in a way that isn't directly evident in many other introductions.</p>