Generalized symmetric algebras and Dickson algebras over ${\mathbb F}_p$. - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-22T07:15:08Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/20106http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/20106/generalized-symmetric-algebras-and-dickson-algebras-over-mathbb-f-pGeneralized symmetric algebras and Dickson algebras over ${\mathbb F}_p$.Dev Sinha2010-04-01T20:30:50Z2011-07-28T03:27:37Z
<p>Start with the really well-known fact that <code>$R[x_1, \ldots, x_n]^{S_n}$</code>, where $R$ is any commutative ring, is polynomial on elementary symmetric polynomials. Now consider the slight generalization of multiple collections of variables, namely <code>$R[x(i)_1, \ldots, x(i)_n]^{S_n}$</code>, where $i$ runs over some finite indexing set and <code>$S_n$</code> still acts by permuting subscripts. These rings are generally not polynomial algebras, in particular when $R$ is <code>${\mathbb F}_p$</code>.</p>
<p>Ten years ago, in the context of computing the cohomology of symmetric groups, Mark Feshbach gave generators and inductively-defined relations for these rings when $R$ is ${\mathbb F}_2$. My questions are:</p>
<p>(1) Does anyone know of calculations over <code>${\mathbb F}_p$</code> or other approaches over <code>${\mathbb F}_2$</code>?</p>
<p>(2) Restricting to <code>$R = {\mathbb F}_p$</code> and replacing <code>$S_n$</code> by <code>$GL_n({\mathbb F}_p)$</code> we get the Dickson algebras in the case of one collection of variables. Has anyone studied the analogues of Dickson algebras where there are multiple collections of variables?</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/20106/generalized-symmetric-algebras-and-dickson-algebras-over-mathbb-f-p/20110#20110Answer by clarifythequestion for Generalized symmetric algebras and Dickson algebras over ${\mathbb F}_p$.clarifythequestion2010-04-01T21:48:36Z2010-04-01T21:48:36Z<p>Do you mean the ring of diagonal invariants with $k > 1$? This appears in the combinatorics literature (Garsia-Haiman and developments thereof) for $k=2$ and $R$ a field of characteristic 0, but the definition can be given for all $k$ and $R$. It is just the $S_n$ invariants of the following object:</p>
<p>The polynomial ring (with $R$ as coefficients) generated by $nk$ variables, with the variables partitioned into $k$ disjoint sets of size $n$, and $S_n$ simultaneously (that is, "diagonally"), permuting all of the $n$-sets.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/20106/generalized-symmetric-algebras-and-dickson-algebras-over-mathbb-f-p/20158#20158Answer by Vladimir Dotsenko for Generalized symmetric algebras and Dickson algebras over ${\mathbb F}_p$.Vladimir Dotsenko2010-04-02T11:26:06Z2010-04-02T11:26:06Z<p>Four quick references that contain substantial info on your questions (for more, it'd be good to know what exactly you would like to know...):</p>
<p>de Concini, C.; Procesi, C.
A characteristic free approach to invariant theory.
Advances in Math. 21 (1976), no. 3, 330--354. </p>
<p>Grosshans, F. D.
Vector invariants in arbitrary characteristic.
Transform. Groups 12 (2007), no. 3, 499--514. </p>
<p>Stepanov, S. A.
Vector invariants of symmetric groups in the case of a field of prime characteristic. Discrete Math. Appl. 10 (2000), no. 5, 455--468 </p>
<p>Stepanov, Serguei A.
Orbit sums and modular vector invariants. Diophantine approximation, 381--412,
Dev. Math., 16, Vienna, 2008.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/20106/generalized-symmetric-algebras-and-dickson-algebras-over-mathbb-f-p/71460#71460Answer by David Wehlau for Generalized symmetric algebras and Dickson algebras over ${\mathbb F}_p$.David Wehlau2011-07-28T03:27:37Z2011-07-28T03:27:37Z<p>The paper [P. FLEISCHMANN, A NEW DEGREE BOUND FOR VECTOR INVARIANTS OF SYMMETRIC GROUPS, TRANS. AMS
Volume 350, Number 4, April 1998, Pages 1703-1712] shows that this ring is generated by homogeneous invariants whose degree does not exceed max{n, k(n − 1)} (where i runs over an index set of size k).
Also this bound is sharp if $n=p^s$ for some prime $p$ and either $R=\mathbb Z$ or $R$ has characteristic $p$. </p>
<p>Some work has been done on the Dickson invariants version as well. I think that is considered in the article [Steinberg, Robert, On Dickson's theorem on invariants. J. Fac. Sci. Univ. Tokyo Sect. IA Math. 34 (1987), no. 3, 699–707.]</p>