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The finite subgroups of SU(n)
Q.Q.J.
2010-03-04T11:23:31Z
2012-02-04T01:45:36Z
<p>This question is inspired by the recent question <a href="http://mathoverflow.net/questions/16026/the-finite-subgroups-of-sl2-c" rel="nofollow">"The finite subgroups of SL(2,C)"</a>. While reading the answers there I remembered reading once that identifying the finite subgroups of SU(3) is still an open problem. I have tried to check this and it seems it was at least still open in the Eighties.</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm or deny that the finite subgroups of SU(3) are not all known? And if this is true, then what is the source of the difficulty? </p>
<p>Secondly, what is known of the finite subgroups of SU(n) for n > 3?</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Thanks to those below who have corrected my ignorance! It seems that I may have been tricked by some particularly sensationalised abstracts (or perhaps just misunderstood them.)</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/17072/the-finite-subgroups-of-sun/17074#17074
Answer by José Figueroa-O'Farrill for The finite subgroups of SU(n)
José Figueroa-O'Farrill
2010-03-04T11:44:33Z
2010-04-02T19:47:57Z
<p>There is an algorithm due to Zassenhaus which, in principle, lists all conjugacy classes of finite subgroups of compact Lie groups. I believe that the algorithm was used for $\mathrm{SO}(n)$ for at least $n=6$ if not higher. I believe it is expensive to run, which means that in practice it is only useful for low dimension.</p>
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<p><strong>Added</strong></p>
<p>Now that I'm in my office I have my orbifold folder with me and I can list some relevant links:</p>
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<li>Zassenhaus's original paper (in German) <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/3n48556l1365g1x1/" rel="nofollow">Über einen Algorithmus zur Bestimmung der Raumgruppen</a></li>
<li>There is a book by RLE Schwarzenberger <em>N-dimensional crystallography</em> with lots of references</li>
<li>There are a couple of papers in <em>Acta Cryst.</em> by Neubüser, Wondratschek and Bülow titled <em>On crystallography in higher dimensions</em></li>
<li>There is a sequence of papers in <em>Math. Comp.</em> by Plesken and Pohst titled <em>On maximal finite irreducible subgroups of GL(n,Z)</em> which I remember were relevant.</li>
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<p>Independent of this algorithm, there is some work on $\mathrm{SU}(n)$ from the physics community motivated by elementary particle physics and more modern considerations of the use of orbifolds in the gauge/gravity correspondence.</p>
<p>The case of $\mathrm{SU}(3)$ was done in the mid 1960s and is contained in the paper <a href="http://link.aip.org/link/?JMAPAQ/5/1038/1" rel="nofollow">Finite and Disconnected Subgroups of SU(3) and their Application to the Elementary-Particle Spectrum</a> by Fairbairn, Fulton and Klink. For the case of $\mathrm{SU}(4)$ there is a more recent paper <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9905212" rel="nofollow">A Monograph on the Classification of the Discrete Subgroups of SU(4)</a> by Hanany and He, and references therein.</p>
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<p><strong>Further edit</strong></p>
<p>The paper <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9811183" rel="nofollow">Non-abelian finite gauge theories</a> by Hanany and He have the correct list of finite subgroups of SU(3), based on Yau and Yu's paper <a href="http://www.ams.org/mathscinet-getitem?mr=1169227" rel="nofollow">Gorenstein quotient singularities in dimension three</a>.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/17072/the-finite-subgroups-of-sun/17084#17084
Answer by Bruce Westbury for The finite subgroups of SU(n)
Bruce Westbury
2010-03-04T13:30:54Z
2010-03-04T13:30:54Z
<p>The finite subgroups of SU(3) have been known for a century. I think you can find it in these references (my Departmental library does not go back this far):</p>
<p>MR1500676 Blichfeldt, H. F. On the order of linear homogeneous groups. II.
Trans. Amer. Math. Soc. 5 (1904), no. 3, 310--325.</p>
<p>MR1511301 Blichfeldt, H. F. The finite, discontinuous primitive groups of collineations in four
variables.
Math. Ann. 60 (1905), no. 2, 204--231.</p>
<p>MR1560123 Blichfeldt, H. F. Blichfeldt's finite collineation groups.
Bull. Amer. Math. Soc. 24 (1918), no. 10, 484--487.</p>
<p>and also in this book</p>
<p>MR0123600 (23 #A925) Miller, G. A. ; Blichfeldt, H. F. ; Dickson, L. E. Theory and applications of finite groups.
Dover Publications, Inc., New York 1961 xvii+390 pp.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/17072/the-finite-subgroups-of-sun/27293#27293
Answer by Eric Rowell for The finite subgroups of SU(n)
Eric Rowell
2010-06-07T00:58:44Z
2010-06-07T00:58:44Z
<p>Bit late with this but since I didn't see it above I will mention it: The paper by W. Feit MR0427449 (1970) says that finite linear groups up to dimension $7$ have been classified.</p>
<p>He has a list of primitive subgroups of $G\subset SL(n,\mathbb{C})$ with $Z(G)\subset G^\prime$ up to $n=7$. Probably this has been improved upon. </p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/17072/the-finite-subgroups-of-sun/27365#27365
Answer by Agol for The finite subgroups of SU(n)
Agol
2010-06-07T16:46:12Z
2010-06-07T17:58:16Z
<p>This addresses the second question "What is known about finite subgroups of $SU(n)$".
A special case of the Margulis lemma implies that for each $n$, there is an $m(n)$
such that any finite subgroup of $O(n)$ has an abelian subgroup of index $m(n)$ (see Corollary 4.2.4
of <a href="http://math.berkeley.edu/~ianagol/276.S10/bookdraft.pdf" rel="nofollow">Thurston's book</a>).
Thus, there is a normal abelian subgroup of index at most $m!$. So one may make
a statement: there are finitely many finite groups so that any finite subgroup of
$SU(n)$ is an abelian extension (of rank at most $n-1$) of one of these finitely many groups. It would
be quite interesting to obtain an estimate of the function $m(n)$,
which should be possible by giving an effective proof of Margulis' theorem.
I did a literature search once to see if anyone had attempted this, but I didn't
find anything, and I would be curious if someone knows something. </p>
<p>Addendum: Working backwards from Weisfeiler's paper referenced in Keivan's comment, I found <a href="http://www.ams.org/mathscinet-getitem?mr=2334748" rel="nofollow">a result of Collins</a> implies that a finite linear subgroup of $GL(n,C)$ has an abelian normal subgroup of index at most $(n+1)!$ when $n\geq 71$ (and gives the bound for all $n$). Since finite subgroups of $GL(n,C)$ are conjugate into $U(n)$, this bound works for $SU(n)$. See also <a href="http://www.ams.org/mathscinet-getitem?mr=2381807" rel="nofollow">Collins paper</a> on primitive representations, which has some historical discussion of this problem. </p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/17072/the-finite-subgroups-of-sun/28356#28356
Answer by krishnamohan for The finite subgroups of SU(n)
krishnamohan
2010-06-16T07:59:18Z
2010-06-16T07:59:18Z
<p>Check out <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.1479" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.1479</a></p>
<p>He has used GAP to list out the groups with a faithful 3D irreducible representations....That way he misses out on some subgroups of SU(2)....as well as abelian groups...which might have a faithful 3D representation which is reducible....</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/17072/the-finite-subgroups-of-sun/72402#72402
Answer by krishnamohan for The finite subgroups of SU(n)
krishnamohan
2011-08-08T21:19:39Z
2011-08-08T21:19:39Z
<p>Please see <a href="http://prd.aps.org/epaps/PRD/v84/i1/e013011/listof100smallgroups.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://prd.aps.org/epaps/PRD/v84/i1/e013011/listof100smallgroups.pdf</a></p>
<p>We have classified all groups of order less than 100 into subgroups of U(2), SU(2), U(2)XU(1), SU(2)xU(1), U(3) and SU(3)...</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/17072/the-finite-subgroups-of-sun/87500#87500
Answer by kskedl for The finite subgroups of SU(n)
kskedl
2012-02-04T01:45:36Z
2012-02-04T01:45:36Z
<p>This is really a comment on the top answer above, but since new users can't comment, I'll let someone else manually transfer the information to the right place.</p>
<p>There is a further mistake in the list of Fairbairn, Fulton and Klink (repeated in the list of Hanahy and He), which appears to be a misunderstanding of the classification by Blichfeldt et al. Two of the cases in that classification consists of semidirect products of abelian groups by $A_3$ and $S_3$. However, it is not specified which abelian groups can occur in this fashion!</p>
<p>Fairbairn, Fulton and Klink mistakenly assume that the abelian group in question has to be $\mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z} \times \mathbb{Z}/n \mathbb{Z}$ for some positive integer $n$, thus giving rise to the groups they denote $\Delta(3n^2)$ and $\Delta(6n^2)$. However, this is not the case. </p>
<p>Example 1: $A_3$ acts on the copy of $\mathbb{Z}/7\mathbb{Z}$ generated by the diagonal matrix with entries $e^{2\pi i/7}, e^{4 \pi i/7}, e^{8 \pi i/7}$; this example occurs inside the exceptional subgroup of order 168. More generally, if $m,n$ are positive integers and $m^2+m+1 \equiv 0 \pmod{n}$, then $A_3$ acts on the copy of $\mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z}$ generated by the diagonal matrix with entries $e^{2\pi i/n}, e^{2m \pi i/n}, e^{2m^2 \pi i/n}$.</p>
<p>Example 2: $S_3$ acts on the copy of $\mathbb{Z}/3\mathbb{Z} \times \mathbb{Z}/9\mathbb{Z}$ generated by the diagonal matrices with entries $e^{2\pi i/9}, e^{2\pi i/9}, e^{14 \pi i/9}$
and $1, e^{2\pi i/3}, e^{4\pi i/3}$; this example occurs inside the exceptional subgroup of order 648.</p>
<p>I don't know a reference for the complete classification of the abelian groups that can occur inside the semidirect product. Yau and Yu don't say any more than Blichfeldt et al, though they do at least provide a helpful rewrite of the classification in modern language.</p>