"Wick rotation" of tropical geometry - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net 2013-06-18T21:45:31Z http://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/1168 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://mathoverflow.net/questions/1168/wick-rotation-of-tropical-geometry "Wick rotation" of tropical geometry Theo Johnson-Freyd 2009-10-19T06:16:01Z 2009-11-05T18:52:38Z <p>This question is related to <a href="http://mathoverflow.net/questions/406/how-is-tropicalization-like-taking-the-classical-limit" rel="nofollow">my earlier, even more open-ended question</a> on tropilcalization. I will give some background and ask my question at the end.</p> <p>On <strong>R</strong>, consider the family of commutative, associative operations &oplus;<sub><i>h</i></sub>, indexed by positive <em>h</em>, given by <i>x</i> &oplus;<sub><i>h</i></sub> <i>y</i> = -<em>h</em> ln( exp(-<i>x</i>/<i>h</i>) + exp(-<i>y</i>/<i>h</i>) ). For <em>h</em>&gt;0, the semigroup (<strong>R</strong>,&oplus;<sub><i>h</i></sub>) is isomorphic to the normal additive groupsemi (<strong>R</strong><sub>&gt;0</sub>,+). But as <em>h</em> &rarr; 0, for fixed <em>x</em> and <em>y</em> we have the limit <i>x</i> &oplus;<sub><i>h</i></sub> <i>y</i> &rarr; min(<i>x</i>,<i>y</i>). This defines the <i>tropical addition</i>, and it's conventional to include the additive unit &infin; = -<i>h</i> ln(0).</p> <p>There is a continuous/integral version of the observation that in the limit, + (in the guise &oplus;<sub><i>h</i></sub>) becomes max. Indeed, let <em>f</em> : <strong>R</strong><sup><i>n</i></sup> &rarr; <strong>R</strong> be a continuous function bounded below, and assume that <em>f</em> grows to +&infin; in all directions, fast enough so that for any <em>h</em>&gt;0, the integral &int;<sub><b>R</b><sup><i>n</i></sup></sub> exp(-<i>f</i>(<i>x</i>)/<i>h</i>) <i>dx</i> converges (or anyway for <em>h</em> small enough; if it converges for any <em>h</em> then it does for all smaller <em>h</em>, and to converge for small <em>h</em> requires only very mild growth rates; as |<i>x</i>|<sup>&epsilon;</sup> for &epsilon;>0 is certainly good enough). Then asymptotically as <em>h</em> &rarr; 0, the integral is supported at the (or, rather, in a formal neighborhood of the) globally-minimal values of <em>f</em>. To make the correspondence explicit, note that &int;<sub><b>R</b><sup><i>n</i></sup></sub> exp(-<i>f</i>(<i>x</i>)/<i>h</i>) <i>dx</i> is (exp of -<i>h</i><sup>-1</sup> times) the "&oplus;<sub><i>h</i></sub> integral" of <em>f</em>, whereas the "&oplus;<sub>0</sub> integral" of a function is its global minimum value.</p> <p>There is another fact about asymptotic integrals, related by "Wick rotation", which is what the physicists call it any time you switch a variable from pure-real to pure-imaginary. As above, let <em>f</em> : <strong>R</strong><sup><i>n</i></sup> &rarr; <strong>R</strong> continuous and growing reasonably quickly to infinity, but this time for real non-zero <em>h</em> consider the integral &int;<sub><b>R</b><sup><i>n</i></sup></sub> exp(-<i>f</i>(<i>x</i>)/(<i>ih</i>)) <i>dx</i>, where <em>i</em> = &radic;-1. The integral never converges absolutely (and so does not exist in the sense of Lebesgue), but it converges conditionally as a Riemann integral, e.g. if <em>f</em> is differentiable and given mild conditions on the growth of the norm of the derivative. (If <em>f</em> grows at least as fast as |<i>x</i>|<sup>1+&epsilon;</sup>, we're fine, I think.) In any case, let's assume that the integral converges conditionally for small enough (real, non-zero) <em>h</em>. Then the method of stationary phase shows that asymptotically, the integral is supported at (formal neighborhoods of) critical points of <em>f</em>.</p> <p>My question is this: Is there a version of "tropical arithmetic" like the operation &oplus;<sub><i>h</i></sub> defined above but related to the Wick-rotated integral? The most naive approach, replacing <em>h</em> by <em>ih</em> and so considering <em>x</em> &oplus;<sub><i>ih</i></sub> <em>y</em> = -<em>ih</em> ln( exp(-<i>x</i>/<i>ih</i>) + exp(-<i>y</i>/<i>ih</i>) ), is not defined because of the problem of picking a branch of the logarithm. But perhaps this problem can be fixed for small <em>h</em>, or by approximating each pure-imaginary <i>ih</i> by <i>ih</i>+&epsilon; for some very small positive &epsilon;? Put another way: what is the operation on numbers that corresponds to {critical points} in the same way that min(<i>x</i>,<i>y</i>) corresponds to {global minimum}?</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/1168/wick-rotation-of-tropical-geometry/4284#4284 Answer by Theo Johnson-Freyd for "Wick rotation" of tropical geometry Theo Johnson-Freyd 2009-11-05T18:52:38Z 2009-11-05T18:52:38Z <p>There has been very little activity on this question, so I'm going to take it off the unanswered list. In particular, in <a href="http://mathoverflow.net/questions/4228/" rel="nofollow">a related question</a>, kilimanjaro linked to <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/math.GM/0507014" rel="nofollow">this paper</a>, which answers some of my questions and includes many references.</p>