most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net 2013-05-23T23:48:33Z http://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/116785 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://mathoverflow.net/questions/116785/geodesic-cuffs-of-pairs-of-pants-in-a-hyperbolic-manifold-why-are-they-disjoint Daniel Moskovich 2012-12-19T12:32:53Z 2012-12-19T18:08:38Z

<p>I'm trying to understand Kahn-Markovic's celebrated <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0910.5501" rel="nofollow">Immersing almost geodesic surfaces in a closed hyperbolic three manifold</a>. There is something probably quite basic which I can't figure out.</p> <p>We have $M^3= \mathbb{H}^3/\mathcal{G}$ a closed hyperbolic $3$-manifold, where $\mathcal{G}$ is a Kleinian group. Let $\Pi^0$ be a topological pair of pants with cuffs $C_0$, $C_1$, and $C_2$, and let $\rho\colon\thinspace \pi_1(\Pi^0)\to \mathcal{G}\subset PSL(2,\mathbb{C})$ be a faithful representation. Let $\gamma_i$ denote the geodesic in $M$ that represents the conjugacy class of $\rho(C_i)$ in $\mathcal{G}$ for $i=0,1,2$ (these become cuffs for pairs of pants which Kahn-Markovic construct inside $M$ and glue together to form an immersed almost geodesic surface). </p> <blockquote> <b>Question</b>: Why are $\gamma_0$, $\gamma_1$, and $\gamma_2$ disjoint?</blockquote> <p>It is essential to the construction that the cuffs indeed be disjoint, because if they intersect, reduced complex Fenchel-Nielsen coordinates don't exist (there is no "foot"). In fact, Kahn and Markovic need many pairs of pants inside $M$ to coexist, so not understanding why the cuffs are non-intersecting even for a single pair of pants is particularly frustrating.</p>

http://mathoverflow.net/questions/116785/geodesic-cuffs-of-pairs-of-pants-in-a-hyperbolic-manifold-why-are-they-disjoint/116807#116807 Agol 2012-12-19T18:08:38Z 2012-12-19T18:08:38Z

<p>This is an extended comment:</p> <p>As Misha says, the geodesics might be immersed in general, and in fact the pants and the surfaces they construct will in general be highly immersed (lots of self-intersections). </p> <p>If you'd like to visualize embedded geodesics, you can imagine the lifts to the unit tangent bundle, or for a given pair of pants, it will lift to an embedded pants in some covering space corresponding to the image of the fundamental group $\rho(\pi_1(\Pi^0))$. To understand the feet of $\gamma_i$, then you can work in this covering space. The feet will be at the points of the shortest geodesics connecting the three boundary components in pairs (seams). There's a canonical involution sending $\gamma_i$ to its inverse, fixing the seams, and thus the feet lie equally spaced about each geodesic. Then project the whole picture back down into $M$ to get the feet. </p>