Hyperreal finitely-additive measure on [0,1) assigning $b-a$ to $[a,b)$ or $(a,b]$ and infinitesimals to singletons - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-22T20:44:22Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/108170http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/108170/hyperreal-finitely-additive-measure-on-0-1-assigning-b-a-to-a-b-or-a-bHyperreal finitely-additive measure on [0,1) assigning $b-a$ to $[a,b)$ or $(a,b]$ and infinitesimals to singletonsAlexander Pruss2012-09-26T15:21:30Z2012-09-27T16:56:10Z
<p>Is there a hyperreal-valued finitely additive measure on all the subsets of [0,1), or at least the Borel ones, that </p>
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<li><p>assigns $b-a$ to $[a,b)$ and to $(a,b]$ for all $a\lt b,$ and </p></li>
<li><p>assigns an infinitesimal--ideally, the same one--to each singleton?</p></li>
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<p>It's (1) that's a problem. The Bernstein-Wattenberg construction yields a finitely-additive measure that gives (1) up to infinitesimals. But it would be nice to have (1) exactly.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/108170/hyperreal-finitely-additive-measure-on-0-1-assigning-b-a-to-a-b-or-a-b/108196#108196Answer by Joel David Hamkins for Hyperreal finitely-additive measure on [0,1) assigning $b-a$ to $[a,b)$ or $(a,b]$ and infinitesimals to singletonsJoel David Hamkins2012-09-26T21:51:12Z2012-09-27T03:36:30Z<p>I think this is a very interesting question. </p>
<p>In response to your comment, let me argue that if 1 holds and the measure is additive, then the singleton values are all the same. This is the sense in which the strong form of 2 follows from the weak form of 2.</p>
<p>To see this, following Sean's comment, observe that $\mu
(\{a\})+\mu((a,b])=\mu([a,b])=\mu([a,b))+\mu(\{b\})$, and so $\mu(\{a\})=\mu(\{b\})$. So all singletons must have the same measure, and so the strong form of 2 follows from the weak form of 2.</p>
<p>In particular, the proposed function $\rho$ in your comment to the question does not exhibit the desired properties, in light of the decomposition $[0,\frac{1}{2}]=\{0\}\cup(0,\frac12]=[0,\frac12)\cup\{\frac12\}$. </p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/108170/hyperreal-finitely-additive-measure-on-0-1-assigning-b-a-to-a-b-or-a-b/108252#108252Answer by David Milovich for Hyperreal finitely-additive measure on [0,1) assigning $b-a$ to $[a,b)$ or $(a,b]$ and infinitesimals to singletonsDavid Milovich2012-09-27T14:57:01Z2012-09-27T16:56:10Z<p>Yes, by compactness. </p>
<p>Let $R$ denote your favorite hyperreal ordered field
and let $\delta\in R$ be a positive infinitesimal.
Let $\mathcal{E}$ denote the set of all
(standard) finite Boolean subalgebras of $\mathcal{P}([0,1))$.
For every $A\in\mathcal{E}$,
let $\lambda_A(I)$ be the (exact) length of $I$
for all half-open intervals $I\in A$;
for all open or closed intervals $I\in A$,
respectively subtract or add $\delta$ to the length of $I$
to define $\lambda_A(I)$;
let $\lambda_A(S)=\delta$ for all singletons $S\in A$.
Extend $\lambda_A$ to a probability measure $\mu_A$ on $A$.</p>
<p>(Specifically, for
each minimal finite union of intervals $F\in A$,
let the connected components of $F$ be $[a_0,b_0),\ldots,[a_k,b_k)$
with $p$ elements of $\{a_i,b_i:i\leq k\}$ added and $q$ removed.
Partition $F$ into its atomic subsets $H_0,\ldots,H_n$.
Choose a positive $\mu_A(H_i)\in R$ for each $i$, such that
$\sum_{i\leq n}\mu_A(H_i)=(p-q)\delta+\sum_{i\leq k}(b_i-a_i)$.
Now extend $\mu_A$ from the atoms to all of $A$.)</p>
<p>Let $U$ be a fine ultrafilter on $\mathcal{E}$.
("Fine" means that $\{B\in\mathcal{E}:A\subseteq B\}\in U$
for all $A\in\mathcal{E}$.)
The ultraproduct measure $\mu_U$ is $R^U$-valued and has
the two properties you seek.</p>