Maximal number of maximal subgroups - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net2013-05-20T13:47:12Zhttp://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/104759http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://mathoverflow.net/questions/104759/maximal-number-of-maximal-subgroupsMaximal number of maximal subgroupsKlim Efremenko2012-08-15T12:13:11Z2012-12-07T22:25:54Z
<p>Let $G$ be a finite group. I want to find an upper bound on the number of the maximal subgroups. My questions is does it possible to prove that the number of maximal subgroups of any finite group $G$ is at most $|G|^{100}$?</p>
<p>One can easily find that any subgroup is generated by at most $\log|G|$ elements thus the number of subgroups(in particular maximal subgroups) is at most $|G|^{\log|G|}$.
Does it possible to improve this upper bound.
For an abelian group the number of maximal subgroups is at most $|G|$ and in fact I do not know any example where the number of maximal subgroups is more than $|G|$.</p>
<p>I am almost sure that I am not the first who is asking this question I would like to know if the answer to this question is known or either this is a hard question.</p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/104759/maximal-number-of-maximal-subgroups/104763#104763Answer by Benjamin Steinberg for Maximal number of maximal subgroupsBenjamin Steinberg2012-08-15T13:04:41Z2012-08-15T18:49:25Z<p>Another extended comment. The best bound on the number of subgroups is $|G|^{(1/4+o(1))\log_2 |G|}$ proved in <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.100.913&rep=rep1&type=pdf" rel="nofollow">http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.100.913&rep=rep1&type=pdf</a> by Borovik, Pyber and Shalev. </p>
<p>For the number of maximal solvable subgroups they get $|G|^c$ for some constant. They don't estimate c but conjecture it is 1. </p>
<p><strong>Added</strong>. The survey László Pyber, Asymptotic results for simple groups and some applications. Groups and computation, II (New Brunswick, NJ, 1995), 309–327, DIMACS Ser. Discrete Math. Theoret. Comput. Sci., 28, Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, RI, 1997 claims there is a bound of the form $|G|^c$ for any group G on maximal subgroups but c is not described. It is conjectured c=1 will do. </p>
<p><strong>Added</strong>. Jesse in the comments below cites a more recent and better bound of $c|G|^{3/2}$. I am making this CW to not get credit for his answer. </p>
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/104759/maximal-number-of-maximal-subgroups/115746#115746Answer by Nick Gill for Maximal number of maximal subgroupsNick Gill2012-12-07T21:34:01Z2012-12-07T22:25:54Z<p>The document I linked to above is sufficiently striking as to warrant an answer of its own. I hope it complements the community wiki above.</p>
<p>As mentioned above the relevant conjecture in this area is due to Wall:</p>
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<p><strong>Conjecture</strong> The number of maximal subgroups of a finite group $G$ is less than the order of $G$.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This has been the subject of much study with the landmark work (until recently) being the above-cited work of Liebeck, Pyber and Shalev. In addition to the result mentioned above they show that the conjecture is true if the group $G$ is simple, up to a finite number of exceptions.</p>
<p>Now a quote from the linked document is relevant:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>This largely directed attention to
composite groups, where Wall in his original paper had at least shown the conjecture to be true for finite solvable groups. The key remaining cases were known to be semidirect products of a vector space V with a nearly simple finite group G acting faithfully and irreducibly on it.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It turns out that in this case Wall's conjecture implies some bounds on the cohomology groups $H^1(G,V)$. And, as the document relates, examples have now been found which violate these bounds. In particular, Wall's conjecture does not hold.</p>
<p>In light of this development, the bound $C|G|^{3/2}$ mentioned above, also due to Liebeck, Pyber and Shalev, assumes greater importance. Although, as the linked document mentions, it is likely that the value $3/2$ can be reduced a great deal.</p>
<p>One final interesting quote:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>A conjecture of Aschbacker and Guralnick, not made at the conference... would
now rise to be the main conjecture in maximal subgroup theory. (The conjecture states that it is the number of conjugacy classes of maximal subgroups that is bounded, less than the number of conjugacy classes of elements in the group.)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Anyone interested should definitely <a href="http://aimath.org/news/wallsconjecture/wall.conjecture" rel="nofollow">read the document</a>. Not only is it interesting mathematically, it's a very engaging account of how this recent breakthrough was achieved.</p>