Knot diagrams, sets of moves and equivalence relations - MathOverflow most recent 30 from http://mathoverflow.net 2013-05-25T17:41:00Z http://mathoverflow.net/feeds/question/104172 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://mathoverflow.net/questions/104172/knot-diagrams-sets-of-moves-and-equivalence-relations Knot diagrams, sets of moves and equivalence relations David Feldman 2012-08-07T02:56:28Z 2012-08-08T06:56:08Z <p>Short version: <strong>Does anyone study equivalence classes generated by a given set of "moves" (in the sense of, but not limited to, Reidemeister moves) on the set of knot diagrams?</strong></p> <p>Yes, I understand that the concept of knot has a natural geometrical significance, that one usually views knot diagrams as a tool to study underlying knots, that the value of Reidemeister moves lies in how they preserve and generate the equivalence relation of isotopy. So, yes, I see why a knot theorist might reasonably have little interest, say, in looking at local moves not preserving isotopy. </p> <p>So I'm asking this question in the spirit of abstraction for its own sake. But there is a precedent. A "symmetry theorist" studies groups because they capture the set of symmetries of important objects. But combinatorial group theory studies equivalence classes of strings under moves...and symmetry, if it enters the story at all, does so as a tool. </p> <p>That said, it would be interesting if one could add an extra move to the Reidemeister moves that produced a coarser but computationally tractable classification.</p> <p>No need to retread the ground here -- <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reidemeister_move" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reidemeister_move</a> -- so, for example, I already understand that knot theorists know what happens with only Reidemeister type II and III moves. I am interested in stories like this, where one gets a finer equivalence relation that isotopy, but equally interested in sets of local moves that don't preserve isotopy and thus generate equivalence relations either coarser to, or simply incomparable with, isotopy.</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/104172/knot-diagrams-sets-of-moves-and-equivalence-relations/104184#104184 Answer by Daniel Moskovich for Knot diagrams, sets of moves and equivalence relations Daniel Moskovich 2012-08-07T09:41:46Z 2012-08-08T01:05:48Z <p>Very much so. There are a number of small industries centred around studying equivalence classes of knot diagrams generated by a set of moves.</p> <ol> <li>The study of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasper_(mathematics)" rel="nofollow">claspers</a>. For example, $C_k$-moves are a special type of clasper surgeries. MathSciNet indicates <a href="http://www.ams.org.ezlibproxy1.ntu.edu.sg/mathscinet/search/publdoc.html?arg3=&co4=AND&co5=AND&co6=AND&co7=AND&dr=all&pg4=AUCN&pg5=TI&pg6=PC&pg7=ALLF&pg8=ET&review_format=html&s4=Habiro&s5=claspers&s6=&s7=&s8=All&vfpref=html&yearRangeFirst=&yearRangeSecond=&yrop=eq&r=2&mx-pid=1735632" rel="nofollow">123 citations</a> for Habiro's fundamental paper <em>Claspers and finite type invariants of links</em>, providing some coarse measure of the vitality of the topic.</li> <li>Replacing one rational tangle in a knot diagram by another generates an equivalence relation which has been deeply studied using <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racks_and_quandles" rel="nofollow">quandles</a>. See <i>e.g.</i> <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0405248" rel="nofollow">J. Przytycki's introductory lectures</a>.</li> <li>Dehn surgery, where the surgery curve is required to belong to some specified part of a knot group or link group (in the kernel of its representation to some fixed group, for instance) generates equivalence relations on knot diagrams modulo combinatorial "twisting" moves, which have been studied by Cochran-Orr-Gerges, and (excuse the self promotion) by myself and Andrew Kricker, and by Litherland and Wallace. The techniques for studying these equivalence relations have been topological rather than combinatorial.</li> <li>There are a number of setting in which one allows Reidemeister moves plus some crossing changes, but not others. In the theory of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_type_invariant" rel="nofollow">finite type invariant</a>, one fixes a some crossings (considers them in resolutions of "double points"), and allows crossing changes away from them. The equivalence classes are detected by the finite-type invariant of type the number of "fixed" crossings. In a similar-sounding vein, a free virtual knot is a virtual knot where we allow crossing changes away from virtual crossings. They have a rich theory- see <i>e.g.</i> <a href="http://www.ams.org/journals/mosc/2011-72-00/S0077-1554-2012-00188-5/S0077-1554-2012-00188-5.pdf" rel="nofollow">this Manturov paper</a>.</li> </ol> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/104172/knot-diagrams-sets-of-moves-and-equivalence-relations/104188#104188 Answer by Douglas Zare for Knot diagrams, sets of moves and equivalence relations Douglas Zare 2012-08-07T11:00:21Z 2012-08-07T17:04:11Z <p><strong>Legendrian knots</strong> </p> <p>Legendrian knots are smooth knots whose tangent directions are contained in a contact structure such as the standard contact structure on $\mathbb{R}^3$, $dz=y~dx$. Every knot has Legendrian representatives. Two Legendrian knots of the same topological type might not be isotopic through Legendrian knots.</p> <p>The projection of a Legendrian knot in the standard contact structure to the $xz$-plane is called its <em>front projection</em>. Some people study Legendrian knots through diagrams showing front projections. The $y$ coordinate can be recovered from the slope, so all crossings are determined by the diagram. However, there can be no vertical tangencies, since $y$ would be undefined, and you must allow cusps. See <a href="http://www.ams.org/notices/200910/rtx091001282p.pdf" rel="nofollow">this Notices article</a>. </p> <p>There are analogues of Reidemeister moves, so this gives a refinement of knot theory described by a set of diagram moves on front projections. </p> <p>Actually, you don't have to work with cusped diagrams. You can make all cusps horizontal, and you could choose to replace the horizontal cusps with vertical tangencies. So, standard knot diagrams up to a restricted set of moves (including disallowing some isotopies where no Reidemeister move was performed, but where vertical tangencies would have been introduced or removed) are equivalent to Legendrian knots.</p> <hr> <p><strong>Link isotopy</strong></p> <p>Suppose you study curves up to isotopy instead of the standard ambient isotopy used in knot theory. You may be disappointed: knot theory in $S^3$ becomes trivial. You are allowed to replace a piece of a diagram showing a long knot with a long unknot by shrinking the knot to a point and forgetting it. However, link theory is still nontrivial, and so is knot theory in a $3$-manifold which is not simply connected. See Rolfsen, "Localized Alexander Invariants and Isotopy of Links." <em>Annals of Mathematics</em> 101 (1975) 1-19. </p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/104172/knot-diagrams-sets-of-moves-and-equivalence-relations/104190#104190 Answer by Marco Golla for Knot diagrams, sets of moves and equivalence relations Marco Golla 2012-08-07T11:27:41Z 2012-08-08T06:56:08Z <p>One classical example of such move is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_%28knot_theory%29" rel="nofollow">Conway mutation</a>, which falls into the category of tangle replacement, as Qiaochu Yuan mentioned in his comment. There's a very famous pair of mutants, the Kinoshita-Terasaka and the Conway knot (see the wikipedia article).</p> <p>Apparently, there's some topology behind this move: recently, using knot Floer homology, Josh Greene <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.0487" rel="nofollow">has shown</a> that two <em>alternating</em> knots are mutants if their branched double covers are homeomorphic, and the other arrow was shown by Viro (see references in Greene's paper).</p> http://mathoverflow.net/questions/104172/knot-diagrams-sets-of-moves-and-equivalence-relations/104208#104208 Answer by Agol for Knot diagrams, sets of moves and equivalence relations Agol 2012-08-07T15:42:08Z 2012-08-07T15:42:08Z <p>The Delta move generates the equivalence relation of linking numbers for links, as proved by <a href="http://www.ams.org/mathscinet-getitem?mr=915115" rel="nofollow">Matveev</a> and <a href="http://www.ams.org/mathscinet-getitem?mr=995383" rel="nofollow">Murakami Nakanishi</a>. <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8592391/delta.jpg" alt="alt text"></p> <p>There's the double Delta move which <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/math/9911005" rel="nofollow">Naik and Stanford showed generate S-equivalence</a>. <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8592391/ddelta.jpg" alt="alt text"></p> <p>A student of Freedman studied <a href="http://proquest.umi.com/pqdlink?Ver=1&amp;Exp=08-06-2017&amp;FMT=7&amp;DID=742471991&amp;RQT=309&amp;attempt=1" rel="nofollow">"slide equivalence" of knot diagrams</a>. Unfortunately it wasn't published though. </p>